More and more boat migrants

grr666 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Jun 2014 Karma :

From what mum said that is between their insurer and Samsung. The insurance people took what was left of the faulty
fridge away for "their own tests". Mum and Dad have retired now but this wasn't all that long ago, maybe five years or so.
They left their home and moved out into Kent two years ago, mum was never comfortable in that house again after the fire.
I dare say if they went on about it enough and gave it the full on victim routine they may have been able to squeeze some £££
out of Samsung UK but to do so wouldn't occur to them. They were just happy to be alive as this fire happened on a Saturday
afternoon while they had walked round to the shops to get some bread, had they been in and if my old man had been in bed
because he did nights a lot back then, then he would have been trapped by the fire same as the cat was. Speaking of which, I
eventually got them another cat who they named Phoenix.
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Polarbear · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :

But we live in a different world now.

I am old enough to remember the 60's. To remember when the worst gang warfare was mods and rockers on Brighton beach. Maybe us old fogeys do look at the past through rose coloured specs but I can categorically say there is very little I like about how Britain has changed in the last 40 years.

The gimmedat culture is prevalent everywhere.

We need to stop rewarding laziness and criminality but it's never going to happen because it's wrong to blame people however scummy they are.

Want a bit more money, squeeze out another rugrat.

Not getting what you want scream racist/sexist/anythingist.

A good article on Grenfell towers, a bit old but still valid.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4673612/Awkward-questions-no-one-answer-Grenfell-Tower.html

grr666 writes about his parents not claiming, mine were the same. Rightly or wrongly it was regarded a a shameful thing to claim the dole, an absolute last resort for the desperate. Now it's a lifestyle choice that is perfectly acceptable and a homing beacon for economic migrants (yes, mpd is correct on quite a few points about illegal immigration despite how loudly his detractors shout).

I used to be proud of this country. Abroad in some of the furthest places I visited or worked being British helped. You were much more highly thought of than being a yank or a German. People used to talk about Britain as a wonderful place and I would agree.

Not any more.
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Yup Polarbear I agree. It was a shame people felt when claiming for help or support. I can actually remember when my parents hit rock bottom and someone from the dole actually came to visit the house to chat and fill in forms. There was a TV set in the house but it wasn't ours - uncle had been sent to prison and we were holding his possessions till he was let out but that dole person spotted the TV set and told us 'don't need that'. They continued to go through the house telling my parents to get rid of things, to sell them before claiming. Imagine someone from the dole going to a house now with each claim!!

Speaking of prison or criminal records, it was a huge shame on a family. Now? It's like a badge of honour. I can show people streets where every single house has a person living there who has been to prison. Whole streets ffs.

Even up here in the leafy outreaches of Newcastle upon Tyne where everyone knows when someone farts there are hidden immigrants. Sure we have regular raids on the obvious places - takeaways, car washes and the like but there are far far more. Most are 'owned' by masters and are basically used as slaves and kept hidden away. Some escape to claim compensation for modern slavery despite being here illegally (I have no idea how that works..) but they do exist. Heck there are mansions on estates where footballers live that regularly become drugs farms run by Chinese masters using illegal immigrants as farm worker slaves who never leave the mansions.

Honda badge guy: He might claim to be unable to read and write (I've seen such before) but mark my words they know what they're doing. You can't tell me they got through the whole education system without that skill in more modern times? They have a car - can they drive? If so then they know what signs say. They passed a test.

My current biggest annoyance with people manipulating a system is claiming mental illness - an invisible issue and should that person lay it on or claim suicidal then the agencies will take a step back just in case they trigger someone too far. The problem with that is those genuine people seeking help are then denied because queues are too long or they're not shouting loud enough. It stinks when the genuine people are denied because of those faking illness to get free money.

Britain being wonderful? It might have been long ago and there in lies a problem. The rest of the world are told this and they seek to go to wonderful Britain. We're reaping the results of it.
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grr666 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Jun 2014 Karma :

I got my record at 18, so it's 30 years old nearly. Haven't added to it for a very long while, last entry being a
formal police warning for possession of class A substances about 18 years ago. It's ancient history to me.
But it's still brought up if I'm ever stopped by the fuzz. Rolling Eyes

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Ribenapigeon · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Karma :

I remember a radio 4 program from twenty years ago about the effects of unemployment. A guy who had worked akl hus life in something like the shipyards made a point thats always stuck with me. He said that when he was young he had no choice but to go into the local factory and the big positive was that having to mux with adults and gaun their respect made him grow up.
We have a society now which extends childhood into a person's twenties and uf tbey dont have a meaningful activuth which requires they learn to rub along with others then they never grow up. Theres a growing understanding of this effect in the rise if personality disorder diagnosis. Its sad and Universal Basic Income will not help in fact it will make it worse. We would be better just subsidising factorys to make useless dingwidgits that just get sent to the next factory to be recycled.

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y0 Jeremy c0, where's the money for Grenfell?

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Another load picked up on Saturday. Apparently it's a drop in the channel compared to those that come over inside lorries however.

Ribenapigeon · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Karma :

It's interesting how in all the speculation about post brexit britain nobody ever talks about how the cutting off of Eastern european migration might effect britain.