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jtclark93
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 21 May 2015    Post subject: NSR 125 RX running rough Reply with quote

New here but looking for answers as i'm not too technical with the inner workings of bikes as of yet.

Bought the bike as a bit of a project (Probably not my wisest choice as my know how is not all there)
Anyways on to the issue, the engine sounds horrendous on tick over, got a sort of rough rumble/ kind of low knocking noise.

Changed spark plug, oil, cleaned air filter and checked the fuel lines, but before i start taking it all to pieces i was wondering if anyone else has any ideas.
Its also got next to no pull when setting off from a stand still its a bit 'Chuggy' if thats even a thing.
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Just_James
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be numerous things from your description but my first port of call would be a compression test.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Re: NSR 125 RX running rough Reply with quote

[quote="jtclark93"
Anyways on to the issue, the engine sounds horrendous on tick over, got a sort of rough rumble/ kind of low knocking noise..[/quote]

Nothing wrong with a bit of a project Thumbs Up Can you get a video of this noise..
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumbly noises could be crank main bearings, can you get the covers off the sides and try wobbling the flywheel/primary gear?
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jtclark93
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing wrong with a bit of a project Thumbs Up Can you get a video of this noise..


I have attached a recording of what appears to be a toy machine gun, but i assure you, its my engine. Shocked

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Rumbly noises could be crank main bearings, can you get the covers off the sides and try wobbling the flywheel/primary gear?


ill have a look and get back to you on that one, although, there is some play in the front sprocket (Unsure if this should be a thing)

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Could be numerous things from your description but my first port of call would be a compression test.


As i said my know how is lacking, what would i need to do a compression test?
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stirlinggaz
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
To do a compression test, you need a special tool called, funnily enough, a compression tester Smile
if your going to have a 2 stroke for any length of time, I suggest you buy one. I use a Gunson kit, very reliable & lasts for years.
A simple single cylinder 2 stroke 125 is an ideal bike to learn the basics on imo.
you will need to try & identify where the noise is coming from.
use a screwdriver as a listening device & find out if its coming from the top end (the cylinder, piston etc) which isnt too much of a problem as spares are quite reasonable & you could do any work yourself or
the bottom end (gears, clutch etc) which is a bit more serious & might be a bit difficult for you, but you need to start somewhere, right?
So, in this order : test compression & if its below 100psi its time to think about taking cylinder head off & seeing what state the piston & cylinder is in.
if its above 100psi, fit a new spark plug (br9), make sure battery is fully charged & put some fresh fuel in.
then try to find out where the noise is coming from.

cheers,
GAZ
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jtclark93
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,
Just used the screwdriver trick and it becomes a more defined rumble/slightly grindy noise towards the top of the engine, towards the plug, a new spark plug went in on tuesday, and battery is maybe a month old, fuel is fresh from wednesday.
The bottom just sounds a tiny bit grindy But i assume thats the gears or something?

As for the compression, i suppose ill have to wait till i get hold of one (Guessing this will also hold vital information)
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stirlinggaz
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
ny moneys on damaged piston &/or rings.
you will find out when you remove the cylinder head.

cheers,
GAZ
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jtclark93
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to order a new set anyway as I can't hurt to change them either way, what size would I need to get?
Also, how difficult are they to change?
Thanks for the help by the way
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stirlinggaz
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Theres 4 or 5 standard pistons available.
there all coded by letter. ie A, B, C etc

To find out what piston you need, remove the cylinder & look underneath, the code is there
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cheers,
GAZ
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jtclark93
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried and tried, but I can't get that far into the cylinder, what are these fitted with as standard?
Managed to get as far as removing cylinder head.
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stirlinggaz
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 24 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Like I said, they come with 1 of 4 pistons, A, B, C or D.
you will find out which one when you remove the cylinder & look for whatever letter is etched onto the underside.
cheers,
GAZ
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