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PostPosted: 19:26 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
A real motorcyclist smells worse than his motorcycle, never gets a haircut and quite possibly has a limp from all the previous crashes.

But, quite frankly, this thread is predestined to fail and to be marked as boring. For many of us, motorcycling is not a lifestyle. It's just a hobby or, for some people, a way of cheap transportation. There's no romance, bravery, freedom and other crap, that people, that don't ride, think there is.

There are no stereotypes that would fit me, or any of my friends that ride. Once the helmet is off, the bike pushed back into the garage, we are just people.

And Biking News & Issues section shall be about motorcycle news and issues, not this kind of thing. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:

But, quite frankly, this thread is predestined to fail and to be marked as boring. For many of us, motorcycling is not a lifestyle. It's just a hobby or, for some people, a way of cheap transportation. There's no romance, bravery, freedom and other crap, that people, that don't ride, think there is.


Dare I say it but... [/THREAD]
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
Once the helmet is off, the bike pushed back into the garage, we are just people.
Apart from cruiser riders, obviously.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I am a maxi scooter rider

What should I be like
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Re: Stereotypes Reply with quote
Crossover rider wrote:
Stereotypes

Denon
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NAD

The list goes on.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
i'm talking about myself and a mate here, neither of us could have so much fun with cars - imo the 'stereotypes' regularly upgrade their status symbol motors which are a probably bmw or audi, and don't understand why anybody would riisk all on a motorcycle.

so as far as we are concerned i suppose we haven't really grown up and/or don't connect with the rat race, keep up with the joneses, conform to the norm - so i see bikers as mildly adventurous people prepared to be a bit different.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Re: Stereotypes Reply with quote
Crossover rider wrote:
Hi guys-I have a question for you.

Speaking with some friends I heard that there are quite a few stereotypes characterizing motorbikes' owners and that each bike has kind of a "typical" owner...what do you think about it? Do you think it's real? How would you characterized brands by adjectives? Smile


I was talking to a guy at work about this just today. He said that crossover riders are all waaaaaaaaaaaaaaankers.

I said he shouldn't stereotype, and he said "I'm not....."
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
Once the helmet is off, the bike pushed back into the garage, we are just people.


I mostly agree, except.

Codge wrote:
so i see bikers as mildly adventurous people prepared to be a bit different.


And there it is.

90% of my day is spent playing at normalcy, speaking in the language of the factory churned out masses (of which I am one).
Most folk I know are on autopilot, going through thousands of fixed routines in a day right from their wakeup time to their pre-determined bedtime. The instantly forgettable conversation with the till staff at the local petrol station, while filling up and getting another bland cheese & pickle sandwhich and copy of their daily periodical to tell them what to think for that day. Discussions in the office revolve around the weather, what flavour of Model T, churned out nonsense they watched last night, whether we bash bankers or imigrants (depending on what the paper says), then onto who has what phone, car or holiday as they jossle for position in this hierarchy of bullshit. Or talk about building work being done to their pile of debt they service just so they exist in a place that allows them to repeat the same mindless activities the following day.

But get the bikers together from around the building and the overly self important conversation quickly evaporates as does, for the most part, dick measuring. Why. Because to a greater extent, they don't give a fuck. Then it's just about the craic.

Mildly adventurous and, for better or worse, using their brains to think for themselves.


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Except Cruiser riders obvs. Wink
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 21 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andy_Pagin wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
Once the helmet is off, the bike pushed back into the garage, we are just people.
Apart from cruiser riders, obviously.


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PostPosted: 10:15 - 21 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pigeon wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
Once the helmet is off, the bike pushed back into the garage, we are just people.


I mostly agree, except.

Codge wrote:
so i see bikers as mildly adventurous people prepared to be a bit different.


And there it is.

90% of my day is spent playing at normalcy, speaking in the language of the factory churned out masses (of which I am one).
Most folk I know are on autopilot, going through thousands of fixed routines in a day right from their wakeup time to their pre-determined bedtime. The instantly forgettable conversation with the till staff at the local petrol station, while filling up and getting another bland cheese & pickle sandwhich and copy of their daily periodical to tell them what to think for that day. Discussions in the office revolve around the weather, what flavour of Model T, churned out nonsense they watched last night, whether we bash bankers or imigrants (depending on what the paper says), then onto who has what phone, car or holiday as they jossle for position in this hierarchy of bullshit. Or talk about building work being done to their pile of debt they service just so they exist in a place that allows them to repeat the same mindless activities the following day.

But get the bikers together from around the building and the overly self important conversation quickly evaporates as does, for the most part, dick measuring. Why. Because to a greater extent, they don't give a fuck. Then it's just about the craic.

Mildly adventurous and, for better or worse, using their brains to think for themselves.


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Except Cruiser riders obvs. Wink


This is the most sense ive read today Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 21 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pigeon wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
Once the helmet is off, the bike pushed back into the garage, we are just people.


I mostly agree, except.

Codge wrote:
so i see bikers as mildly adventurous people prepared to be a bit different.


And there it is.

90% of my day is spent playing at normalcy, speaking in the language of the factory churned out masses (of which I am one).
Most folk I know are on autopilot, going through thousands of fixed routines in a day right from their wakeup time to their pre-determined bedtime. The instantly forgettable conversation with the till staff at the local petrol station, while filling up and getting another bland cheese & pickle sandwhich and copy of their daily periodical to tell them what to think for that day. Discussions in the office revolve around the weather, what flavour of Model T, churned out nonsense they watched last night, whether we bash bankers or imigrants (depending on what the paper says), then onto who has what phone, car or holiday as they jossle for position in this hierarchy of bullshit. Or talk about building work being done to their pile of debt they service just so they exist in a place that allows them to repeat the same mindless activities the following day.

But get the bikers together from around the building and the overly self important conversation quickly evaporates as does, for the most part, dick measuring. Why. Because to a greater extent, they don't give a fuck. Then it's just about the craic.

Mildly adventurous and, for better or worse, using their brains to think for themselves.


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Except Cruiser riders obvs. Wink


But is this not simply because you all have a common interest?

You could replace biking with rugby or rock climbing or cycling and say the same thing.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 21 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes maybe monkey although it is more of a lifestyle choice as far as i am concerned, when i left work i sold my car because using the bike was so much more enjoyable albeit an old machine, actually i have three altogether of the same model but the others are really for parts.

ok i can use the wife's car when i need to get somewhere in bad weather but generally it's the bike - as far as neighbours are concerned they really do not get it and i can actually clock some bewildered looks as to why anybody would prefer two wheels.
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Well, it looks like [THREAD] belongs around 10 posts back up top.
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Some of us hide behind the stereotypes to good effect. I don't walk so well. I don't like being touched by strangers. I have to stop for a rest more than most.

I wear my hair long as I hate getting it cut. There was once a mohawk but that doesn't agree with a motorcycle helmet.

What passes for work either has no dress code, or I'm expected to look like a musician.

So I can either be the obviously drugged up to the eyeballs metalhead and receive a giant wad of society's hatred.

Or I can wear black leather and get the occasional question on how I last crashed, or details of my journey, or just the awkward politeness from people who see the biker and cannot work out what I might be beyond that, all the way down to class, job, access to the legal system and how many big, hairy, and potentially violent friends I have.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 21 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
monkeybiker wrote:

But is this not simply because you all have a common interest?

You could replace biking with rugby or rock climbing or cycling and say the same thing.


It's not about common interest, it's about attitude. If a person chooses an elevated level of risk to achieve an elevated level of enjoyment, meaning that "keeping up with jones's" is relegated to far below "making some moments of smiles" then yes, because it's about personality.

I'm more likely to enjoy the company of somebody who bombs around in a knackered Volvo, doesn't know the details of latest Eastender plot twist but spends their time and money Skydiving at weekends.

Typically bikers tend to have more of that about them. But there are plenty of people like that who are not bikers. Well they are, they just don't know it yet Wink

As an example. A guy at work is a true blue Tory, lives in a specific area of Surrey because it's "important to have the right postcode". He drives a car he can't afford on finance because it presents the right image and always has the latest iPhone. Spends most of his time talking at you about the latest brilliant decision he's made. He then spends the other 25% of the time slagging off the appearance, work etc of colleagues he was just cozying up to.
This describes most of the people I work with to be fair. None of them seem particularly bothered about enjoying the here and now, perhaps they think they will live forever, or it's not important.
The woman are the same, except they spend 66% of their time slagging each other off after smiling broadly in front of them.

Tory boy comes over and says:
TB: "Pigeon, you and I are very much alike. We both know what it's like to live life on the edge"
P: "We do?"
TB: "Sure, we both like get that buzz, that incredible rush when balanced between success and disaster"
P: "How so?"
TB: "Well, you have your bikes and I have golf"
P: "..."

We share the same space, breathe the same air, but we are not in the same moment.
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Crossover rider wrote:
each bike has kind of a "typical" owner.


I think a few people glossed over this point and I'd say that it does hold true for a fair bit of the riders out there. It's not very often you see someone get off a bike and think "I expected you on something else".

But mainly because people buy different types of bikes for different reasons. A sports bike to [try] go fast, a cruiser to look like Rob Halfords gimp, an adventure bike if you've just finished another episode of Long Way Round, a scooter if you're a tight arse and so on...

It's like stereotyping people at a poultry-food lovers convention as being people who like chicken. It's sort of a given...

It's hard to characterise by brands as you suggest though, take Triumph for example. They have the sharp-edged racing feel of the Daytona, the old school brute Speed Triple, the nimble little sprinter Street Triple, Rocket 3 for the larger of us who need torque to move our gut and the Tiger range if you want to explore the gravel at the edge of Tescos car park and buy some Touratech kit. People do have a pre-conception of brand riders but it's usually rooted in the fact that they don't know enough about bikes to know what they're actually saying.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pigeon wrote:
It's not about common interest, it's about attitude. If a person chooses an elevated level of risk to achieve an elevated level of enjoyment, meaning that "keeping up with jones's" is relegated to far below "making some moments of smiles" then yes, because it's about personality.


If bikes are such a fraternity, and there's no "Keeping up with the Joneses" mentality, then why is there so much slagging off of other people and the bikes they've chosen on this site?
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It's not about common interest, it's about attitude. If a person chooses an elevated level of risk to achieve an elevated level of enjoyment, meaning that "keeping up with jones's" is relegated to far below "making some moments of smiles" then yes, because it's about personality.


If bikes are such a fraternity, and there's no "Keeping up with the Joneses" mentality, then why is there so much slagging off of other people and the bikes they've chosen on this site?


well i don't know anything about slagging off other bikes on here but there are a wide range to choose from, something for everybody and we all have our preferences. nevertheless most m/bike riders will have an affinity with the idea of somebody else enjoying two wheels like they do.

some bikes don't especially appeal to me for example because of their weight, mpg. comfort or even looks. each to their own Very Happy
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RhynoCZ wrote:
There's no romance, bravery, freedom and other crap, that people, that don't ride, think there is.


I beg to differ.
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RhynoCZ wrote:
A real motorcyclist smells worse than his motorcycle, never gets a haircut and quite possibly has a limp from all the previous crashes.
Oi! I resembled that comment!
Hair-cuts? Don't see the point; been falling out faster than it grows since my middle twenties!
As for the limp.. well, skiing didn't help, but yeah... If I didn't make a habit of falling off mountains either off two wheels or two planks, probably wouldn't be so bad!
And the bike only smells better than me 'cos own-brand washing up liquid has gained scent, while shower gel has lost it! That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!
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As an ex Goldwing rider (and now a Trophy rider) I am the stereotypical large tourer rider.

Old, fat, likes my comfort and (according to the wife) still a big kid Thumbs Up
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