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 Posted: 21:04 - 03 Jun 2015  Post subject: Re: I fell in love |
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Stupid question is stupid.
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| Posted: 21:23 - 03 Jun 2015 Post subject: Re: I fell in love |
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: |
Stupid question is stupid. |
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| Posted: 21:41 - 03 Jun 2015 Post subject: Re: I fell in love |
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No, they're a complete scam which you can tell because they're being shilled by a cretin.
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Company i used to work for had them fitted to the van fleet at the cost of thousands, it saved them feck all 
Thankfully nobody told them to limit the vans to 69, that would have saved them thousands.
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| Posted: 00:07 - 04 Jun 2015 Post subject: Re: I fell in love |
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| Rogerborg wrote: |
No, they're a complete scam which you can tell because they're being shilled by a cretin. |
> Business seller information
FANNIE NAIL SHOP
Seems legit 
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| krisjaanis wrote: | Sorry! Maybe I can get simple answers to simple questions? |
Probably not
| krisjaanis wrote: | 1. Which of the model is the best? (year and model) |
1979 DT125E.. it has two springs in its back suspension, so it must be twice as good as all the rest. It's also air-cooled, so has fins, and anything with fins is ultra-cool, just look at a 1950's Cadilac.
| krisjaanis wrote: | 2. What is the cost of repairs? |
Depends on how bad you crash it really.... 'maintenance' is another question.. that rather depends on how abused its been before you get it; then how much you abuse it after.
| krisjaanis wrote: | 3. What is the fuel consumption? |
Anywhere between about 20mph to 120mpg depending on what you do with the thing; they tend to use quite a lot if you go every-where full-bore, especially in the lower gears, not going very far, like round a plowed field; and of course, how much leaks out the tank when you fall off / crash. They can be reasonably frugal if you are a little more considerate with them.. but then why buy a DT? Get a CG is you are worried about this sort of thing. And besides; how much it'll cost to insure, is likely to be a much bigger issue in the economics of the thing.
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| Posted: 22:48 - 04 Jun 2015 Post subject: Re: Yamaha DT125 |
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1. Which of the model is the best?
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1993 - 1998 'R', liquid cooled, modify or replace the exhaust, bypass the reed switch in the speedo and IIRC some messing with the power valve will properly de-restrict. Will need to mess about with jetting if you do that though. Down-gear some for maximum hilarity.
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2. What is the cost of repairs? |
Depends how hard you crash, and what you crash into. Of course if you blow it up by overtuning or forgetting two-smoke oil, lots. Theoretically an arm and a leg or two, you neck and a good section of your hide.
| Quote: | 3. What is the fuel consumption? |
Insignificant compared with the price of good 2T oil. Poor if you've tuned the fuck out of it. Worse if you've tuned it badly. Realisticly, all of the petrol will be used going from one end of a field to another. If you crash, you might spill some.
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Really?
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| krisjaanis wrote: | i want ride to school with this bike! |
And I want to ride Alyson Hannigan, but sometimes we have to postpone our desires.
You linked to a UK site so I assume you're in the UK.
At 16, after completing a Compulsory Basic Training course you can ride a moped. That's up to 50cc and up to 45kph "design speed" (about 28mph). Moped doesn't mean twist-and-go, you can get geared bikes too, but you can't ride any 125 legally on the road until you're 17.
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| krisjaanis wrote: | Ok! Big thanks you for the answers!
I will buy a used Yamaha DT125R, but i have last question!
What is the maximum mileage of These type of motorcycles or it depends on the maintenance?
What is the normal mileage for second-hand bikes? |
Kris.. where in the world do you live.. I have an inkling you may not be British...
Borg's oblique queries are due to European Vehicle Licence system and age restrictions; you cannot have anything bigger than a 30mph / 50cc moped for road use at 16; an 11Kw / 15bhp 125cc from 17-19, and a 33Kw / 45bhp A2 licence after 19. A DT125, isn't legal to ride at 16, and many aren't even legal to ride at 17-19 due to being too powerful; while an AWFUL lot, especially in the UK just aren't legal at all, due to having been 'stolen'. If you are in the UK, this is probably the biggest issue you face if you go looking to buy a DT.. It makes buying one a minefield, keeping one a nightmare, and insuring one rather very expensive!
As to the mileage they can live? As above. Depends on how often they are crashed, how thrashed they are between crashes, and whether they get nicked before or after they get crashed again!
They are a hooligans machine; & thief magnet; if you are worried about 'practical' considerations like fuel consumption; insurance costs, maintenance costs; durability and legality... its probably NOT the right bike for you! Get a Honda XR125 or a 'sensible' Yamaha YBR.
I did my early riding on the air-cooled competition trials versions, the TY's, which are still well regarded in the classic trials world as tough as old boot; simple air-cooled two-stroke engine basically has three moving parts; crank, con-rod and piston; and as long as you make sure you mix the oil and petrol properly; and the exhaust doesn't rot through, they can almost run 'forever' until the cylinder and piston rings and crank bearings eventually wear out... and the older air-cooled DT's are basically the same engine, with the advantage of an oil pump so you don't even have to worry about mixing the petroil properly; just keeping the two-stroke reservoir topped up! Which is why I like 'em! They also made around 15bhp as 'standard' which is more than most of the later water-cooled ones did when factory restricted to Licence limits, and were a tad lighter, while lower and on less extreme 'MX-Jump' suspension actually made a slightly better mannered road-bike (and trail tool IMO).
Later water cooled DT's, where not factory restricted to lower power outputs gained an awful lot of 'complexity', which also made them heavier. The water-cooled motors were still relatively 'tough'; but they are no where near the mechanics delight the air-cooled ones are; and with the 'potential' to make around 18bhp instead of the 13 or so they often came with from the factory to meet licence restrictions.... FAR too many have seen the rather less than helpful attentions of teenage tinkerers armed with little more than a set of push-bike spanners and the idea that they can make them a 100mph motorcycle just cutting a wire and taking a washer out the exhaust....
In my youth, (A couple of centuries ago!) armed with enough spanners to completely strip and rebuild a trials bike in a week-end; the number of times I was shown poor running DT's (Or RD's or TZR's that used the same engine), and asked to 'have a look' only to find the exhaust blowing like a bugger, 'cos teen-owner had taken out the sealing gasket believing it to be the 'magic restrictor washer', with the result that the piston crown had melted, is beyond count! Well, I think that the garage windowsill had a row of about seven or eight on it.. then I ran out of space! Used one or two of the more interestingly re-modeled examples as ash-trays! The addition of power-valves to the last of them, only increased the opportunities for more enthusiastic owners to fuck'em up, as far as I could see.
And THESE days; the cult status of the bike, and the two-stroke in general; there are an awful lot of thirty-odd year old 'heaps' out there that have suffered all the worst attention of teen-hooligan owners, and a diminishing pool of newer bikes still getting ragged to bits; ALL fetching inflated prices, from new teen-hooligans, as well as old duffers my age, wanting to re-live teen-hooligan fantasies in their Mid-Life-Crisis...
IF you are intend on getting one of these; it is NOT a 'cheap' and NOT a 'sensible' bike to go for; and you WILL be paying over the odds to get a bike, and you'll have to be pretty clued up on them to be sure it is a 'legit' bike, and to assess how hooliganised it might be; to then pay a lot more than you need to insure it; to maintain it, and to run the thing.
Fun, perhaps, and a lot of yoofs have cut thier teeth on small displacement two-stroke Yamahas... self included.. but it can be a frustrating & expensive teething experience..... so think long and hard about it!
Questions you are asking, suggest some slightly more 'sensible' consideration on the topic.... they are probably a little irrelevant in the greater scheme of things; BUT, you are asking 'sensible' questions.. about a very 'un-sensible' motorcycle! suggesting its probably not the best one for you!
In the 'stuff' that needs to be dealt with to get on your own bike, legally, on the public highway; the BIKE is actually often the last thing you need to worry about.. though the first thing most consider...
So where are you in the world? what's the bigger scheme? how long until you are 17? How much money might you have, then, to go get a bike, and put it on the road? What gear have you got? Helmet, gloves, boots, wise; Have you ever ridden a bike before? If you get the stuff you need to ride a bike on the road, when you come to go look for one; where will you look? How will you get to bikes 'for sale' to look at them? How might you get any bike you buy home? Who else might need to be involved / convinced to allow you / help you, do all this?..... and what might you have to do to win that 'favor' from them?
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