Too much power for a...

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It would be nice to ride something I can put knobbies on for a bit of off road action. I've been looking at the KTM 690 Enduro R. Now that's out of the way, on to my question: "That's too much power for an off road bike!"

Why is this a common response? Is it mainly coming from riders with little experience on larger cc bikes or increased power in dirt = loss of traction? Riding will probably be 70/30 road/off-road so I figure a bit more power will be more enjoyable on pavement. Looks like a fun wheelie bike too!
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[stuartt]

my busa has loads of power .... it doesn't mean i do 190 every time i'm out on it neither do i do burn outs on it although i'm sure it could .

i would of thought any bike will go as fast or as slow as you want .

i'm new to off road .. going through woods , up hills , over moorland is what i like , forestry tracks are boring to me , i could do that on my busa .

my gas gas ec 300 r has plenty of power & i'd def hurt myself if i went flat out everywhere but i don't , some would say a 300 2t competition bike is to powerful for learning & it will wheelie all the time ... load of rubbish it's fine .

depending what you mean by off road will determine what bike to get , i'm fairly sure most of the big adventure bikes couldn't go half the places my bike can .

& if you get stuck in 2 ft of mud will you get a big bike out or if you loose your balance on a big bike will it be easy to pic up .

also the gearing will it go slow enough off road if it's a bike mainly for road use .

i got sm wheels for my gas gas , gearing 13/40 on & off road , it was ok for a while until i started going through woods & found the bike wouldn't go slow enough .

the gearing is now 13/48 which 50 mph is about it's limit without pushing it to much so a bit slow on the road ,

i now need to learn how to change a chain & keep 1 set of chain & sprockets for off road & another set for on road .

[G]

Lots of power does reduce fun for me.

I also heard the Husaberg 501 was 'too much' before I got one - but it could be ridden slowly fine just I found.

The 690 is quite high geared. Before getting the Akrapovic map on it, it felt a bit lacking in power at low revs, but the aftermarket map sorted that.

If you're happy with the weight, it's a very capable 'do it all' bike. However, if you don't need one bike to do two things, I'd go for two separate bikes - can get a better dirt and better road bike for a fair bit less money.

[hmmmnz]

the big singles these days seem to have a bit more poke than the old days, but they are also alot lighter and considerably easier to manage.

the lc4 based singles have nothing on the new 450s in off road capabilities.
i did the romaniacs first day course last year on one (i didnt race the event)
and compared to my 640 its like night and day.
even the new 250 4 strokes are really impressive not at all the the old xr250s that i grew up with.

saying that if you are doing more road riding, then getting a lc4 is probably a good choice, services are fairly straight forward (excluding doing 2 filters and cleaning out a 3rd)
clearances are easy, and the service intervals arn't too bad either
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[doggone]

It's the weight as much as anything, even a 250 can be a sod to heave out if it gets seriously stuck and you can't even find a solid place to stand.
Bigger engine means bigger and heavier everything else.

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[binge]

I've heard that in the past too.

I hear people saying 450's are too 'heavy' for off road.
I think it comes down to riding style.

My history of bikes, (Apart from my learning years on the 400s) has always been big bikes. It's just my style of riding.

TL1000R - Absolute beast of a road bike. Heavy, lots of torque, and almost takes a wrestling match to get it around the twisties.
You come home at the end of a day out riding, and feel like you've actually been out for a good ride.


Bandit 12 - Another tank. Really had to hang onto the thing!


Even when I went supersport, I avoided the GSXRs etc, and went for an early (98) R1, because they're bigger, heavier, and a bit more burly than a modern sports bike.



When it came to buying an off roader, I opted for the YZF450, again, because it was a fucking animal.

Highly strung engine, 4 gears, and had enough torque, to lift the front wheel in any gear, on power, at pretty much any speed.

Not only that, when in supermoto trim, who the fuck wants a 250?


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I have a CRF250L, this summer I've found that I'm just starting to ride beyond the abilities of the bike, rather than beyond my own abilities.

Already got shot of my 650 Sertao, so I'll never know how I might have got on with it properly.

[robertw95]

I have to ask, what is holding up the 450 in the first pic??
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[Supermoto_Fan]

The little triangle metal stand behind the rear wheel
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