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PostPosted: 13:26 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

He Steve, probably more of a General Bike Chat or Workshop topic, but I'll take a swing.

What worked for me was packing a lock with grease. Other folk will recommend graphite powder, and they'd likely be right, but general purpose grease did work for me, and on a lock with that sort of key.

With it being an Oxford product, I'd be confident that if the worst comes to the worse you can drill it out, or even just use harsh language on it. They're not well regarded round these parts.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only guaranteed way.....

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PostPosted: 18:06 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squirt it full of lubricant/release agent/anything slippery. It's probably just gunged up inside.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried looking at actual lock inside itself?

It's often the case with oxford locks that it isn't as simple as just putting the key in and unlocking, the locks have a habit of coming out of line with each other and therefore making it capable of putting the key in and turning it (making it feel like it's not coming undone) with little to no effect.

Take a look inside and make sure the holes are aligned (holes being where you put the key in).

Oxford products are so well made they often prevent anyone from taking your bike, including yourself (as I've found out) Rolling Eyes

+1 on lubrication, I used WD40, didn't have any issues just did it to prevent any as the lock look like it needed some.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disc tumbler locks can get stuck if a bit of grit gets into the mechanism. My Abloy 362 got stuck once from a bit of grit, and took a lot of cleaning (aerosol lubricants) and exercising (gingerly opening and closing, despite the crunchy feel of the mechanism) before it became smooth again.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are your keys turning but not unlocking? We have a patriot and it let's you turn the key even when it isn't all the way in - as described above, the lock get out of line inside - wiggle the key and press it into the lock at the same time, make sure it's all the way in.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Squirt it full of lubricant/release agent/anything slippery. It's probably just gunged up inside.

10w40 if you have nothing better.

I'd stress that WD-40 is not better than nothing.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

I'd stress that WD-40 is not better than nothing.


Roger that... I switched to ACF50 in my locks and ignition barrel, wd40 kept freezing in the cold.
I don't know if you're mean't to use it on locks, but why question its awesome capabilities if it just works?
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
I don't know if you're mean't to use it on locks, but why question its awesome capabilities if it just works?


It'll work, problem is it doesn't dry so more crap will stick to it. Graphite powder is dry, I use it in my karabiners.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD40 freezing in the cold LOL that's a good one.

Roger, if there's one thing that WD40 is VERY good at it's flushing crap out of places and cleaning greasy muck from metal surfaces. I buy it by the gallon mostly for just that purpose, cleaning my bike, my lathe and my milling machine.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
WD40 freezing in the cold LOL that's a good one.


I can't say I know the science behind it, but every single time it had wd40 and there was frost outside, it was jammed shut until covered in hot water.
Particularly the Squire lock over the cheap ones oddly.
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It'll work, problem is it doesn't dry so more crap will stick to it. Graphite powder is dry, I use it in my karabiners.


Good to know, can Graphite be used in ignition barrels too?
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 09 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD40 freezes at minus 63 degrees Celsius.
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 10 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
WD40 freezes at minus 63 degrees Celsius.


Had you considered that Tim may well be a resident of the Republic of Sakha? Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 10 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet that the Oxford warehouse isnt secured with an Oxford lock.
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 10 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Roger, if there's one thing that WD40 is VERY good at it's flushing crap out of places and cleaning greasy muck from metal surfaces. I buy it by the gallon mostly for just that purpose, cleaning my bike, my lathe and my milling machine.

Indeed, and I have a 5 litre can in the garage as well for that purpose.

However, I wouldn't (and didn't) use it in a lock precisely because the last thing I'd want to do is flush any actual lubrication out. If I did use it for cleaning it out, I'd want to dry it out thoroughly and then add lube.

"Greasy muck" worked for me on that particular type of lock, with a cylindrical key like the Oxford uses, remains my point.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 10 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
Good to know, can Graphite be used in ignition barrels too?


Yes. In fact it's Amazon's #1 best seller in the lock cylinders category.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 10 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have some handy, definitely try it. I got a bag for 'lubing' the belt on my '305, it's ace for locks too.

I assume that OP needs his lock open now though.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 10 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
Pete. wrote:
WD40 freezes at minus 63 degrees Celsius.


Had you considered that Tim may well be a resident of the Republic of Sakha? Laughing


Nah, Newcastle.
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 19 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else find it mildly amusing that it's harder to get into an Oxford lock with the key then it is without?
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 19 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigShow wrote:
Anyone else find it mildly amusing that it's harder to get into an Oxford lock with the key then it is without?

Catch up, it's probably corroded through by now. Wink
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 07 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ACF 50 works for me in locks.

Pour in ACF 50, wiggle key in lock until it opens then chuck crap oxford lock in wheelie bin.

Save money option - cut off oxford lock and throw it in the wheelie bin, use ACF 50 on new decent quality lock.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 07 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing OP stole the next bike in that bay but is possibly grateful for the help.
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