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Had my heart going thinking the money I'd just put down for my A2 had been wasted
Quote = law/rules pre January 2013?
Pre 2013 licensing sounds a whole lot cheaper and easier, I assume someone saw the potential £ signs and made it a whole lot more complicated for that reason? |
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| arry wrote: | The EU took exception to the UK having a common sense approach and 'fixed' it |
That is pretty much exactly what happened, as I see it.
There was an explanatory Euro-memo kicking around which was practically foaming at the chops at the audacity of riders passing tests on 125s and then moving up to bigger machines without any further testing or paperwork. Ve must haf papervurk!
Apparently, some absolute villains would even fit their 25kW restrictors so badly that they would fall out.
Upwards of 20 million kittens were murdered by these psychopaths every second, and Something Had To Be Done.
You can view the 3DLD as well intentioned but incompetent, or a deliberate attempt to make biking unattractive. With it being Brussels, it was probably a bit of both, with a good dose of OCD rules-for-the-sake-of-rules added on just for the sperg of it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Were these EU rulings just advisory/voluntary so that the southern europeans can just give these rulings the big finger whilst our numbskull politicians assume they are mandatory and therefore a big money spinner  ____________________ Beer, It's the reason I get up every afternoon
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No, they're a mandatory Directive. We went above and beyond what was required, of course. Apocryphally, the hot countries have historically just laughed it off and been handed down fines in the region of 100K Euros, which is a fraction of what we've spent on mod 1 centres.
That said, it looks like Spain and Italy at least have implemented something like the required slow speed manoeuvres. Beyond that, they can still hand out licenses like sweeties. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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In principle, sure.
In practise, how are you going to book the tests? Other countries don't translate everything into Elbonian (or even English) for the convenience of sponging migrants either.
Anyway, good news, you can now get a full license on a 125 again - just ask MAG for more details.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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MAG are just a pointless waste of members monies.
But the EU is an atrocious farce of nonsense. They have a lot of meddling going on in a lot of areas, but the general gist is that they're trying to set EU-wide standardisation, to bring the civilised sensible western EU countries in line with the laissez-faire eastern ones whose attitude to things can be somewhat "shit happens".
Unfortunately they had the rather flawed idea that instead of an EU-wide minimum standard, they were going to have EU-wide mandatory regs that were not flexible, which meant countries with stricter safety regulations were going to be forced to significantly relax those regs so everyone was doing the same rules.
Eventually after about 5 years of campaigning someone in Europe saw a bit of sense and this has changed and now it is back to the more-logical minimum standard, with individual countries able to keep their existing, stricter regs.
The EU is good in theory, but in practice they have too much power, not enough intelligence and exceptionally little common sense. ____________________ Current Bike: 1999 Honda CB600 FX Hornet
Next Bike: I want a CBR-RR. And I want an F800 GS-A. And a VFR 800. Can I have all 3?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 184 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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