Close Call This Week

[Vincent]

Had a bit of a "brown stain" moment this week......I was approaching a roundabout in the left hand lane of a short piece of duel carriageway. The left lane was empty but there was about 6 vehicles in the right, queuing up for the roundabout. The lead car of this queue decided to let a young lad on a pushbike, (hidden to me by the traffic), cross the road....right in front of me Thank christ my brakes are up to scratch and I slowed down enough to avoid him but I did my first "stoppie" on the VFR
The car didn't check the inside lane before waving this lad on to cross the road and, when I was approaching the cycle at an alrming rate of knots, I noticed he wasn't looking either and was actually looking completely the other way
I don't know.......the morons we have to put up with
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[Rogerborg]

Paint diagram so that we know how much to shout "POOR OBS / JUDGEMENT" at you.
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[UnknownStuntm...]

Inb4 CSB

But I had a similar one yesterday. Driving though. Up to a blind junction which is a give way, but in the interests of not going to hospital or jail, I always stop. Some cockbrained moron steps out in front of me, headphones on, swagger in full effect. Looks left after I am stopped, visibly stifles a jump and walks on, all cocky like.

Felt very compelled to want to pay a higher excess after the enevitable license loss period in that short few seconds...

[chickenstrip]

So the lead car, presumably waiting right at the entry to the roundabout (?), let the cyclist cross, and you were approaching the roundabout "at an alarming rate of knots".

Have I got this right?

a) car driver silly to let cyclist cross without proper observation.
b) motorcyclist approaching roundabout too fast.
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[Rogerborg]

Careful now, let's keep our powder dry for that paint diagram.
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[andyscooter]

had a stupid driver moment today

first of all car stopped at every island we came to to see if it could go or not

secondly the same car got to another island which is clearly marked left lane straight on right hand turn right for m5 south (I WAS IN THIS LANE AS TAKING THAT TURNING)

car in left lane comes right round and is now in the lane I need to get into to come off the island

I ended up abandoning the maneuver and went round again
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[Vincent]

I wish I'd have had a decent horn fitted on the bike because I could have made the cyclist crash without touching him I must have been about two foot away from hitting him and he never even looked back
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[andyscooter]

I also murdered a kitten pheasant
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[NJD]

Upon my last visit to the training school one of the things that struck true was the whole "as much of a good intention that people have flashing their lights and waving you out, take it with a pinch of salt and make your own observations".

On the regular commute you get used to the hotspots where people like to tempt your fate.

People stopping to leave a gap for dedicated turn lanes from the main road into a side road is a common one I encounter, often cars in the outside or lane closest stop but cars on the inside don't, proceed with caution.

Cyclists generally amaze me, I had one who decided to voice his opinion at me because I pulled out of a side ride to join a roundabout and had apparently came close to him, despite being seconds latter when he caught up his lack of hi-vis gear or any safety simply gave him the stare of death and rode on.

[Vincent]

Here you go, I'm actually very used to this hazard as It's local. The cental reservation bit is quite high so anyone waiting to cross is usually fairly visible and I was way over to the left to get a beter view of the front car in the queue. I reckon the second vehicle in the cue was a van that hid the cyclist. They've re-surfaced the roundabout recently and if you get it right, it's a great bit of road, there's also good visibility of the nearest "feeding" lane so......... it is slightly possible that I may have been ever so slightly distracted setting myself up for a bit of an "Ago" moment The roundabout won't stay like this long as it's near a bus depot....another year or so and it'll be plastered with diesel It's still stupid for the car driver to wave the cyclist into the path of any vehicle and even stupider for the cyclist not to look so, if I had of hit him, I wouldn't have lost many nights sleep over it.....and I doubt it would have done me or the bike much damage. It still got the heart pumping a bit at the time though
Incidentally...where "Me" is written in red, there is a pedestrian crossing, this is where anyone with any road savvy crosses.

https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/Drewskovitch/Jap%2070s%20bike%20toys/Bike%20toys/Screenshot%201_zpsqvrq6oju.jpg
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[bamt]

[wristjob]

so was the cyclist crossing the road like a pedestrian or was he just going round the roundabout?

[NJD]

[Beehive Bedlam]

[bamt]

Helmets are not a legal requirement either - and, despite what people think, it isn't even clear that they make any difference (they aren't motorbike helmets). In Australia, for example, where a mandatory helmet law was rigorously enforced, there was NO statistically significant difference in serious head injuries (in fact they went up slightly). Real world experience trumps beliefs.

So, what you are saying, is that if somebody using the road entirely legally doesn't comply with what you think they should be wearing then you will endanger their lives and feel righteous about it?

It sounds like you had poor obs and blamed him.

(Of course, it is possible he was riding like a twat and overly sensitive about a perfectly safe manoeuvre in front of him - but he may also have hit the brakes to slow down because he saw you pulling out in front of him).

[Diggs]

Nearly binned it last week and it was all my own fault - approaching a village I saw a bike parked up on the left hand side. Didn't know if the bloke needed any help so I took a long look. Didn't notice that the traffic had stopped in front of me either. If anybody saw an orange Speed Triple perform a stoppie coming into Mytholmroyd a few days ago - I was that muppet...
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[NJD]

[bamt]

Fair enough - but if you'd seen him already then it proves that hi-viz wasn't needed

[Vincent]

[Wonko The Sane]

You're certain the cyclist was crossing the road and not going round the roundabout and thus you should have given way?

It's not the car driver's responsibility to check for traffic, all he's done is say to the cyclist "I'm waiting for you to cross"

It's the cyclist's job to check it's safe to do so - admittedly he's failed in this respect

It's your job to question why traffic hasn't moved onto what appears to be an empty roundabout and act accordingly.
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[dydey90]

I'm pretty sure you get told all the way through learning to drive that you should never wave anybody across the road, because of this exact situation.
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