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Fallen Angel
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: I crashed my bike this morning OUCH!!!! Reply with quote

And got a bit of a fright!!! Shocked

Here's how it happened....

..... On my way to work I was coming up to a set of traffic lights, seen them change to amber as two cars in front of the car in front of me proceeded through, so I started to slow down from about 30mph and must have slowed down to about 10mph or less, dropped to 2nd gear, still on front and rear breaks, looked over my shoulder to check there was no-one up my arse, then it happened, as I looked back round to the front, I started sliding fast towards the car in front of me, which had already stopped, I tried to swerve to the left, but smacked right into the back of the car and off I came.

I just kind of sat on the ground like a lump of wood for a minute, wondering what the hell had happened!!!!!

Wasn't injured and managed to get up quite quick - thank gawd for the leathers, 'cause it's the elbow and the knees of my leathers that are scraped!!! And I was going to wear my jeans today!!!! Thank gawd I didn't!

My wee bike's not too bad, she has a crack to the front under the screen about 6 inches long, but it should be easy enough to fix with some fibreglass. And a couple of wee scratches to the back of my mirrors and stuff, easy enough to touch up, I think!!!

The guy's car's got dent about the size of my helmet just above his back bumper to the left hand side! Dunno what made this dent in his car, dunno if it was my head, it all happened so quick!!

There's a couple of wee scratches to my helmet, but nothing that looks like impact, so it must just have been the front of my bike that dented his car!!

Now I'm in work, the shoulder I had a wee operation on last week's killing me, must have jarred it on impact!!

The thing I'm worried most about is money just now!!!! My excess on my insurance is £400!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUGGER!!!!

At least I'm safe though, and hopefully that's me had my off!!!

**Fran crosses fingers**

Do you know the spooky thing too, I said to my other half laughing last night - do you know what, you should take the bike tomorrow, 'cause it's Friday 13th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLOODY FRIDAY 13th!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Bike shunts happen everyday, the date dosnt matter, when its your time its your time.
Though i crashed on a trcakday with the number 13 bike Laughing.

Glad your ok though Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 10:13 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww, no. Sorry to hear that, but at least you are ok.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thats just severly unlucky.

It's quite hard looking behind, presumably in the lifesaver position and to know what is going on in front of you. On numerous occasions I have smacked into something in front of me, because I was looking behind. Surprisingly you gain a lot of distance in that time it takes to turn around, observe, react and get focussed again.

Hence why a lot of the time I use my mirrors anyway. Embarassed

Anyway good luck with the insurance and the shoulder! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats bad luck Sad but you are ok the bike can be fixed and the car don't matter! Wink
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that, and i hope you recover soon. We all have offs, so dont put yourself down.

But, im not sure that a physical rear observation was the best thing to do. You were already braking so anyone behind should have been behind you (be it too close or not) would have already been alerted to the change in speed. A rear check would be in order BEFORE a change in speed/direction, otherwise it it slightly pointless really.

Maybey a quick check in your mirrors would have been better in this situation, and before you changed speed if you really wanted to.

Remember to check lifesavers before moving off as well.

Please dont take my comments as a negative critisism, more of a constuctive point which I hope will help you in the future. Thumbs Up Karma

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PostPosted: 10:25 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sympathies.

On the up side, at least you lost your accident cherry going quite slowly Doh!

Hope you and the bike get well soon Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my 'off' yesterday, the only day i didn't wear gloves as well!
Came away with some road rash on palms and shredded skin on knuckles, its mending well though, i cleaned myself with a nail scrubbing brush, the skin was coming off all black Sick, but bike is fine.

How it happened; going round a left hander bend and slipped on drain cover Embarassed .

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PostPosted: 10:32 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I nearly came off yesterday as well. Rolling Eyes Good job I had new tyres they got enough grip to go upright, stupid wet sand on a corner. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too much damage to you or the bike which is good.

Your insurance excess is quite high so you may want to try and sort this out yourself with the guy. If you can get away with doing this you may save yourself a lot of money in the future on the hike you will take on both your car and bike insurance.

Worth thinking about.
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you're pretty much ok.

Your insurance excess should only be for theft or fully comp claims.

However, it might be worth talking to the bloke and seeing how much it would be to get it fixed/replaced. If he takes it to a decent place and doesn't mention insurance it might not be too bad.

While it would mean you lose money now, it may mean you save money next year and in following years because you not only have that years no claims, but you don't have to admit an accident.


It's worth thinking about what caused the accident.

First, was there any loose gravel etc in your path?
A decent warmed up bike tyre should lift the rear rather than slide if it was due to too much braking.
Also, not that I personally don't use the rear much or try not to. Generally you can brake much harder with the front and having the rear still spinning (much easier to lock up the rear) means that it can help keep the bike upright due to gyroscopic forces.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Ouch. Glad you sound like you are OK. Now use an alias for this thread before Izzi sees it!

It does sound like there was something on the road, possibly gravel or diesel.

And I agree with G about considering how much it would be to pay for the repairs yourself.

All the best

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PostPosted: 10:53 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooooooo sweetie !
I am dreading coming off my bike... Confused

I have had a few NEAR shunts...and they scared me so !!!
Every time I was in a row of traffic...moving about 30....and doing a LS near parked cars.
Then, look round...car stopped !! ARGH!
Shocked

I am glad your body is intact !

How is the bike ??

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PostPosted: 10:54 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your kind words everyone, I'm grateful for the advice you've all given too!! Thumbs Up

I've already emailed the man advising my insurance excess is pretty high and that if possible, I would like to see if we could sort this between us.

Thing is, it's a company car, oh! And I should probably have mentioned, the guy is the "Divisional Solicitor for Scottish Power" I got his business card!!! Rolling Eyes

I couldn't have banged into the back of a bloody office junior or something could I!!!! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear you had an 'off' - hope it all gets sorted and your shoulder is ok!

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PostPosted: 11:21 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear that you're ok.

The difficult part is having the confidence to get back on, once you've done that the rest is easy. Thumbs Up

I wouldn't worry too much about insurance, I didn't have any NCB when I had my first accident and got three points for undue care. Embarassed I also had a claim for theft two years later, still with no NCB and come renewal time with a bit of shopping around I got cheaper cover with a lower xs. Shocked

I agree with not performing lifesavers in various situations, but unfortunately a lot of instructors teach them in situations like this. It's difficult for a new rider to fit in all the things they are learning and that can cause somethings to be rushed or performed later than they should be.

The DAS instructor will look for properly performed observations on the part two test, so the schools teach the student to do it. Some, not all, are things you wouldn't do in real life on real roads, but you need to play the game in the first place to get the license.

It's all something that starts to click and fit into place automatically with time and practice.

Angel - Don't dwell on it too much we all do it at some point it's all part of the learning process. It's also one of the reasons that some of the new riders that come on get some flack, the I'm buying a new bike and spending a fortune brigade. Head up and keep enjoying it. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you're still with us Smile

Hope it gets sorted without too much difficulty.

Healing vibes for your shoulder xx
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dainesefreak wrote:

The difficult part is having the confidence to get back on, once you've done that the rest is easy. Thumbs Up


I got back on it straight away after swapping details etc., and carried on to work!! Thumbs Up

I'm not too nervy a person, so, fingers crossed, my confidence will be ok!!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear you are ok, Fallen Angel.

I seriously recommend that you pay your own damages and hope the cars owner doesnt take it through your insurance. As far as I am aware, if you run into the back of someone you are at fault, regardless of the circumstances surrounding the accident. I am not having a pop at you, just giving a bit of advice.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Ouch. Glad you sound like you are OK. Now use an alias for this thread before Izzi sees it!


hehe I did get a bit of an odd feeling when I saw the topic title! But the bike is (mainly) fine, and you're fine, and that's what matters Smile

One thing I would say re. fixing the split part with fibreglass... it's more tricky than you think. The only bit on my Ninja fairing I fixed with fibreglass was the actual hole in it, not the cracks. If I remember rightly I used glue for the cracks - which was also tricky! And then lots and lots of sanding. Although you could perhaps cover the crack from the back of the fairing with fibreglass.. although this still might leave a gap to look at on the front - depends what sort of crack it is!
Have a look in Halfords, they have a kit there for fixing plastic bodywork that has all the bits and pieces you'd need, it's only about £7.99.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww... sorry to hear about your 'off'. Well done for getting straight back on (took me months after my first one!) and hope damage to you + bike mends quickly!
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

izzi81 wrote:
Have a look in Halfords, they have a kit there for fixing plastic bodywork that has all the bits and pieces you'd need, it's only about £7.99.


Will do, thanks for the tip!

I was thinking about fibreglass at the back, the crack is about 4 or 5 inches long and probably could be glued, but, not sure how you would apply pressure properly for the right length of time due to where it is!! Confused

Other than that I've just added to a couple of scratches at the back of the mirrors and there's a few scratches under the front light, but they can all be touched up!!

Guess what I'm doing this weekend??? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:




A decent warmed up bike tyre should lift the rear rather than slide if it was due to too much braking.
Also, not that I personally don't use the rear much or try not to. Generally you can brake much harder with the front and having the rear still spinning (much easier to lock up the rear) means that it can help keep the bike upright due to gyroscopic forces.


there are no guarantees the back will lift before the front slides, it depends upon the geometry of the bike and the height /weight /riding position of the rider. The back is useful in slippery conditions as it will stabilize the bike and even if it does lock up, a rear wheel slide is much more controllable than the front going.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you're OK, Angel, and the bike and car can be fixed, even if it is at a price.

Don't worry too much about it, or let it dent your confidence. We all cock up from time to time. Like they say, Sh1t happens!

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PostPosted: 12:42 - 13 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Pete wrote:

there are no guarantees the back will lift before the front slides, it depends upon the geometry of the bike and the height /weight /riding position of the rider. The back is useful in slippery conditions as it will stabilize the bike and even if it does lock up, a rear wheel slide is much more controllable than the front going.

Ok, I was thinking of an NS125, in non-wet conditions. Used to have one myself. Obviously not going to be so true for bikes that aren't performance orientated.

On sports bikes with decent tyres I have managed to lift the rear in the damp at least and can still get some serious braking power in standing water, though I prefer not to test in traffic situations Smile.

Generally most of my experiences with using the rear in panick situations in the wet have led me to believe it's something best avoided (at least on sports bikes).
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