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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Flash player updates seem to be getting more frequent? Reply with quote

Not really in need of help, just something I noticed.

I never used to notice this program. I seem to be spending a lot of time updating it these days. *

So. Reckon they are just finding it to be increasingly full of security holes or are they short on cash and hoping enough people will forget to un-check the "install mcaffee" box to get a little more spending money?

Security being the claimed issue, surely one of the riskiest things you can do to your PC in terms of security is to download an executable file from the internet and grant it admin privilages?

*No I'm not setting it on automatic, all my major IT problems in recent years have been a result of auto-updating software, most recently skype nearly resource-hogged the mobo on one of our PCs into oblivion and would have if I hadn't heard the fan in vertical take-off mode for about ten minutes from across the office)
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand why you don't want to set it on auto, however one rev out and your box has the potential to get compromised.

To answer your question, it seems like there is a lot more as web exploits are more and more popular,so the code is getting audited more and security holes are being found.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero revs out and your box has the potential to get compromised. It's a wild, wild interwebs.

Hang on, I thought Mr wheel is a lunix hippy. Eh?
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still sometimes uses mozilla and a flash plugin and tantrums if it's out of date. Just without the driveby macaffee downloads and pestering. Also using a Debian remix, stuff tends not to be put out there is it's unstable.

It's the work ones I have to keep on top of though. Only six PCs (three of which shouldn't be browsing the web anyway) but still a PITA.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mildly off topic: What's a rev?

Side note: I thought Flash wasn't being updated for Linux anymore?
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
So. Reckon they are just finding it to be increasingly full of security holes


When was the last time flash didn't have a security hole.

b422063 wrote:
I thought Flash wasn't being updated for Linux anymore?


I don't think it is. Apart from security updates maybe. It just stays on the same version.

Still waiting for it to die.
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PostPosted: 04:07 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going wrote:
Still waiting for it to die.


I can't see it happen unless Silverlight takes over Sick or the DRM free HTML5.
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

b422063 wrote:
Mildly off topic: What's a rev?

-ision.

b422063 wrote:
Side note: I thought Flash wasn't being updated for Linux anymore?

My point. It's been on 11.2 for years, security fixes only, and I'd be doubtful of those.

Chrome has its own plugin, you may or may not be able to get it to work on Chromium or Firefox.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


Chrome has its own plugin, you may or may not be able to get it to work on Chromium or Firefox.


Chromium will work but only if you tell it to ignore out of date plugins.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

b422063 wrote:
Going wrote:
Still waiting for it to die.


I can't see it happen unless Silverlight takes over Sick or the DRM free HTML5.


Except that MS has announced the end of Silverlight and HTML5 will handle DRM content.

Flash is on borrowed time.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the fallout from this spyware company that was hacked, ironically named 'The Hacking Team'. There are documents that say they used vulnerabilities in Flash to gain control of target machines. Apparently the Hacking Team sold software to governments of the more dodgy persuasion to keep an eye on their citizens...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/12/adobe_flash_zero_day_cve_2015_5122/
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could at least wait to pop up the nag screen until AFTER you close the xhamster tabs...
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
It's the fallout from this spyware company that was hacked, ironically named 'The Hacking Team'. There are documents that say they used vulnerabilities in Flash to gain control of target machines. Apparently the Hacking Team sold software to governments of the more dodgy persuasion to keep an eye on their citizens...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/12/adobe_flash_zero_day_cve_2015_5122/


Yup.

Facebook have called for it to be killed.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/14/facebook_flash_kill/

Adobe baaaawwwwww about how hard it is.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/14/adobe_response_to_security_holes/

Mozilla have blocked it, by default, from running.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33520935

But i think the reason Adobe are reluctant to kill it off is due to the McAfee kickbacks they get.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I wondered why Firefox was bawwwing about Flash being "out of date". Ragequit time.

This is Adobe who can't even secure their own servers, mind:

https://uk.pcmag.com/software/8435/news/adobe-hacked-data-for-millions-of-customers-stolen

My "[email protected]" address has been taking a right pounding from my Nigerian friends since then.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

getting warnings on here and other sites about "Adobe Flash" out of date
bloody well fed up updating it every other day
but now its not even offering an update FF has decided to block it en mass on just about all sites I'm visiting today
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:
getting warnings on here and other sites about "Adobe Flash" out of date
bloody well fed up updating it every other day
but now its not even offering an update FF has decided to block it en mass on just about all sites I'm visiting today


Read my post above.
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

but didn't see it till after I posted Thumbs Up
I worked for Adobe as a contractor debugging there software in late 99 early 2k checking the foreign language versions menu's and drop down boxes worked
was a great job as we were taught all the functions of photoshop, illustrator and a few other packages that I still use
and I have a life time license to update for free as I still file reports on any issues

TBH flash is my only issue the CS suite is one software package I'd pay to have
because its the best you can get for image and video editing at a pro level IMHO
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:


TBH flash is my only issue the CS suite is one software package I'd pay to have
because its the best you can get for image and video editing at a pro level IMHO


I hate Flash with a passion. I'm a big fan of the Creative Suite and use it for design and web. I dabbled with Flash at college many moons ago and it was just the worse. I can't wait for HTML5 to be the standard.
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