Average speed cameras A40 West London

Sable · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Karma :

Did the length of the north circular today. Noticed there were average speed cameras appearing from Hanger Lane all the way past Brent Cross . I didn't think they were going to go that far.

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Sable · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Karma :

No idea. Been avoiding the A406 for the last 6 months due to the daft amount of roadworks along the Ikea stretch, which still isn't finished! Neutral

Sable · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Karma :

OP's and Googles info on Londons average speed cameras.

The four locations TfL will be trialling average speed cameras along the TfL Road Network are:

A2 (between Black Prince and the Blackwall Tunnel)
A40 (between the Polish War Memorial and Paddington slip road)
A316 (between the M3 and Hogarth Roundabout)
A406 North Circular Road (between Hanger Lane and Bounds Green Road)

So the A406 runs from here to here :

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/51.6113821,-0.1347394/Hanger+Lane+Station,+Hanger+Lane,+London/@51.5602847,-0.2646757,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x4876121a194ef8cf:0xef6605510ed63c22!2m2!1d-0.2933736!2d51.530159

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Sable · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Karma :

I believe this is A2 and A316 routes for anyone who uses those roads.

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.Bishbash. · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Karma :

bamt · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Dec 2013 Karma :

Saw that this morning too. So the old cameras have been physically removed, the new ones don't start for another fortnight - every night is race night Thumbs Up

.Bishbash. · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Karma :

Undinist · Nearly there... Joined: 08 Oct 2013 Karma :

If two of you ride next to each other at an illegal speed, will either of you be nicked? This dodge works with Gatso cameras. Even if it's obvious what you've done, if there's more than one vehicle in the camera frame the evidence doesn't reach the standard required for a prosecution.
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Vracktal · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Oct 2012 Karma :

The only dodges i'm confident work with average speed cameras are
1) have a plate that ANPR can't read (maybe three line plates, plates with nonstandard fonts, very small plates or plates mounted so far inside the rear wheel well they can't be seen from the camera vantage point).
2) stay below the speed limit.
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.Bishbash. · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Karma :

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Fuck it, I just fucked up badly half an hour ago. I wasn't wearing my camera-proof plate but I forgot I didn't have it on. I passed a Gatso fractionally too fast and got flashed and although it was rush hour I'm pretty sure that I'd outstripped all the other traffic at the previous lights and there was nobody else in the Gatso box with me. Fuck, fuck, fuck. That takes me to 6 points. Fuckity fuck. FUCK!!! Evil or Very Mad

Anybody know whether I'll be offered the speed awareness course alternative? I was offered it earlier this year when I got my current SP30, but I didn't reply in time so the offer was withdrawn. Have I missed my chance to spend a day in a classroom being lectured?
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Serendipity · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Karma :

So I was a good boy last week and did my best to adhere to the new rules. A little bit of mental arithmetic here and there where I figured I could up the pace after slowing for filtering. We’ll see how that goes when the tickets start dropping through my door.

However, the reason for my post is my concern that the buggers may have fitted a new fixed speed camera inside the Hanger Lane underpass. As I entered the tunnel this morning, heading Eastbound, I noticed a distinct single flash from behind me! Shocked

The speed limit in the tunnel is posted as only 30mph. If there are new cameras in the tunnel I’ve not spotted specific signs for them, but I’ll be taking a careful look as I head westbound later.

If I’ve been nabbed by a fixed camera after being so careful about my averages I may have to utter a naughty word or two… Sad

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.Bishbash. · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Karma :

Serendipity · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Karma :

Actually when I checked last night and this morning I saw that the 30 limit signs have all vanished from the tunnel. They may have only been a temporary thing while they were upgrading the lights to LED.

I also didn't see anything that looked like a speed camera so hopefully it was just my paranoia. I'll check my helmet cam footage when I get a minute.
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.Bishbash. · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Karma :

Yeah I didn't see any fixed cameras this morning. But missed the 30 signs disappearing though, glad they bumped that up to 40 again Thumbs Up

Also, the amount of people still powering down that road is insane, I'm sure that will get less and less as the tickets start flying around
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AgeingPedBoy · L Plate Warrior Joined: 19 Feb 2016 Karma :

Hi all, long time lurker here, sorry to bump an old thread as my first post, probably an instaban offence on here (this thread is how i found out about BCF in the first place), but in view of this :

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/westway-speed-trap-nets-100000-a-month-on-11mile-stretch-of-road-a3162776.html

I was wondering if any of you have been done on the Westway yet, as I've been sticking to a steady 45mph (indicated) between Marylebone & Westfield (which is boring as hell and borderline dangerous) since it was put in place but still see a lot of bikes going down there at a fair rate of knots?

Thanks and apologies if needed.

bigjim1974 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 04 Feb 2015 Karma :

I believe someone got busted for an average 50mph, not heard about anyone else

AgeingPedBoy · L Plate Warrior Joined: 19 Feb 2016 Karma :

I'm kinda guessing the threshold is around 50...

bigjim1974 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 04 Feb 2015 Karma :

50 indicated seems to work but they could change it anytime I suppose

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Serendipity · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Karma :

I’ve used the A40 on most week days since the cameras went live and no tickets yet for me. Touch wood.

I guestimate based on optimistic speedo and any breathing space that TfL built into the system and tend to stick around indicated 50mph for the 40 sections and 60mph(ish) for the 50 sections.

Still see plenty of folk who clearly don’t get how averages work. I get out of their way and prepare for their panic braking at the cameras.
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