Friend riding a 600 whilst on his CBT license...thoughts?

[mattevans58]

One of my close friends has decided to illegally ride a 600 sports bike with no full bike license, or insurance. He has put a smaller made up (completely fake) number plate on the bike in order to avoid him being seen/detected. He has good riding experience and I have no doubt he can control the bike but when I asked him what will he do if the police try and chase him, his answer was just to open the bike up and head for the roads he knows. Now, I've got a lot of friends with tales of them bombing away from police and darting into fields or forests to get away and none of them have had any issues escaping the local police. They've always been doing something silly (wheelies or excessive speeding) and every time they've gotten away with it. He's being on this 600 now for 4 months, out nearly everyday, in towns, cities, country roads etc and has not even been looked at twice by the coppers. He's not an idiot in public on the bike, knows when not to draw attention etc. But I can't help but feel a little jealous.

He has another 6 months left before he takes his A2 test to be legal, and he truly believes he wont be caught. I just want to know peoples thoughts on this?

[Pol Anorl]

report the nobber right now.
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[covent.gardens]

If he has an accident he'll just run, the same as if the police try to pull him over. Shouldn't be on the road. Having said this an ex mate of mine rode a big bike on the road without a licence. And I kept my nose out of it all.

Up to you.

[mattevans58]

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What's annoying about it though is I believe he won't get caught too. I was pulled over for no reflector on my license plate the other week by 2 officers in a large BMW cop car and I asked them do they often chase bikes and one of the blokes replied "We don't try to chase them because it pushes the riders to their limits, usually resulting in a life threatening accident." Mind you these are local police officers and I live in a rural area with lots of open roads and twisty roads if you look in the right place.

What's also annoying is that it makes me want to jump the gun as well, he seems to have it all figured out, he's a sensible rider just very keen to get on a big bike. Should I just say fuck it and buy an RR too?

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[mattevans58]

[NJD]

[pompousporcup...]

Report him. Or don't.

It will end in 3 or so possible scenarios. Death from a chase. Escape. Caught and banned. Killing somebody before either of those.

As for yourself. Patience. You have to learn it sometime it may as well be now lol

[P.]

I would say report based on experience now but back in the day friends and I did worse.

Fake plates will scream to police.

Just report the tool.

[Vincent]

It's not easy to get away with much nowadays....my money's on him getting caught. Having said that, with the price and hassle involved with getting a bike on the road, I can see why people are tempted. It can end very bad though, esp if he hurts someone........ and he'll probably lose his licence so won''t be able to ride or drive anything for a while.
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[Bru]

I suspect that losing his licence is not a concern - it has not stopped him thus far.

[andyscooter]

He is a twat


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[c_dug]

I think dobbing him in is a terrible idea.

As it stands at the moment you say he is planning on doing his licence in 6 months time. I'm unsure what his reasoning behind doing it in six months is, but assume he's telling the truth for now. It's pretty bad that he's going to be riding around without a licence, or more importantly without insurance, for the next six months, nobody will deny that.

If you dob him in to the Police he'll almost certainly lose his licence for a year or two, plus have a prohibitively expensive premium put on his insurance after that. We already know he doesn't care about riding without a licence or insurance, so I think it's fair to assume he'll continue as he was, only then it will be on a far more long term basis.

Neither is great, but surely the six months is the lesser of two evils.

The best thing you can do IMO is do your best to convince him to go legit sooner rather than later. Unsure how you'd go about it. As was mentioned above the cost of licencing and insurance these days is surely pressuring more people into doing as your friend is.
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[Dave70]

There's nothing to say he's any more of a bad/dangerous rider now than he would be had he already passed his test. He may actually ride to a better standard than those who've passed their test.

The only real issue I'd say is the fact he obviously isn't insured, which could cause problems for other folk in the event of an accident and that's the only real problem I'd have with it.

I'd keep my nose out tbh. His decision and he'll face the consequences, should the proverbial hit the fan.
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[Snop Doog]

Let it be, I know of plenty of riders who have done and are currently doing the same thing. I couldn't care less as whatever happens is up to them. I've been riding in a group with one for a couple of months, the police have been called on us for another reason, they didn't look twice at his bike.

[Rogerborg]

18? Living on his own or parents don't know or care?

I have no particular moral axe to grind here. Most road traffic "crimes" are victimless and VED is theft. Insurance is the only real issue and if he does potato someone, the MIB will cover third party damages and recover from him if he's identified. If he's not, we'll end up paying for his fun.

Fake plate is perverting the course of justice, Crown Court and custody is assumed. Pretty gangsta.

He has chosen the thug life, mind. If you were to remove the bike, or render it unrideable one way or another, what's he going to do, bawww to the law?
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[hellkat]

I'm struggling to decide whether it's worse that he's a twat or that you are considering becoming a grass


Hmmm.

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[Rogerborg]

[1198]

Common sense would say to replicate an identical bike. But common sense would also make full size - minimum reasons for a lifting from the Plod - and common sense seems scarce in this thread.

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[monkeybiker]

If he truly is a close friend why would you report him, doesn't sound very friendly.

Leave him to it, if he gets caught that's his problem.

[1198]

To those wondering why anyone would grass up their chum, maybe the op has an outstanding sense of right or wrong? Or, maybe, just maybe....