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-Savage-
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Keeping a bike in France? Reply with quote

Hey folks. My parents are moving to retire in France, and I would like to have a bike kept at their house in France to use when I visit.
I don't know what the best way to do this would be.

Should I buy a bike here in the UK, have it registered to me, and "store" it at my parents property in France, or should I/my dad buy a French bike, register it to him and then arrange insurance for me to use it when I go over?

I heard of some laws governing French bikes like a 100bhp limit etc, so I don't know what the best option would be.

Riding over on the bike each time is probably the most simple of options, but it is not what I am looking to do. I live in N.Ireland so it's not just as simple to hop over the channel as it would be from England.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Keeping a bike in France? Reply with quote

-Savage- wrote:
Hey folks. My parents are moving to retire in France, and I would like to have a bike kept at their house in France to use when I visit.
I don't know what the best way to do this would be.

Should I buy a bike here in the UK, have it registered to me, and "store" it at my parents property in France, or should I/my dad buy a French bike, register it to him and then arrange insurance for me to use it when I go over?

I heard of some laws governing French bikes like a 100bhp limit etc, so I don't know what the best option would be.

Riding over on the bike each time is probably the most simple of options, but it is not what I am looking to do. I live in N.Ireland so it's not just as simple to hop over the channel as it would be from England.


1. Where abouts in france?
I maybe able to hook you up with a bike for sale.

2. If you want to keep a UK bike in France and register it etc etc, you will have to put it through a "contrôle technique".
For a UK spec bike, you will have to convert the lights and some other bits to Frog spec so it will pass.

3. 100BHP limit, just find a friendly guy who will pass it anyways.
I can help with that, depending on the answer to #1


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The ‘contrôle technique’ is an obligatory vehicle inspection that must be undertaken every two years.

The test applies to all passenger and transport vehicles up to 3.5 tons gross weight. Vehicles above this weight are subject to a separate set of regulations.

If you own a vehicle over 30 years old (véhicule de collection), the test is only required every 5 years.

For new vehicles, the first test must be undertaken within the 6 months that precede the fourth year of registration. So if you purchased a car on 1st Sept 2009, you need to submit for its first contrôle technique between 1st March and 30th August 2013.

There is also a separate pollution test for commercial vehicles over 4 years old, which must be undertaken on an annual basis.

You are not sent any official notification that your vehicle is due for the test, so you need to diary the date, although once you have undertaken the first MOT, the centre will normally send you a reminder when the next one is due.

Motorcycles are not subject to a test, although there are plans by the European Commission that this should change.

The EU also have plans for a greater degree of harmonisation in the rules, to make them obligatory on an annual basis. These plans are still at a relatively early stage.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: France Reply with quote

After the bikes been there 6 months you would have to get it registered onto French plates, would be easier to buy a frog bike and leave it out there Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, it will be next year before I'm looking to buy a bike I think CaNsA. Funds are a bit stretched as it is lol.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there, I've been lurking on the forum a while, and finally decided to register so I could add a few points.

I moved over to France three years ago and re-registered my bike over here (a BMW F800GS)

If you have a newish bike (and I can't remember the dates) things are easy: all I needed was the Certificate of Conformity from BMW. This was free to get hold of once I found the right phone number to call - the chap mailed it the same day and it was here within three days. In theory, you are supposed to get the CoC with every new bike, however this is bs and you have to ask. Some manufacturers charge you.

CoC, V5, proof of ID etc and a cheque and I soon had a french registration and was told to go and get a plate made up.

For my bike, I did *not* need to put the bike through a controle technique. My bike even had 'handed' dipped beam headlights however this was not, and was never a problem. Instead of paying for a new headlight unit, simply realigned by hand.

Bikes without a CoC, or those over 100hp - I'm not sure what happened. As CaNsA said, it'll be the controle technique I expect.
The six-month thing mentioned is basically what you get on your UK insurance as a general rule. The problem is that UK insurers want the bike to be mostly in the UK; French insurers may insist on a French plate. There are exceptions if you search around. I insure through AXA as there is an English-speaking office nearby.

The 100hp limit is in place here as mentioned; I had the pleasure to be charged €500 more on my new bike to have it restricted. There is a rumour, and only a rumour, that it might be going soon - I have no idea.

Buying a French bike over here would be the 'best' route. It also makes you less of a target to thieves and general hassle. Not that I have had either.

Where are your parents likely to be? Lots of great roads over here - I'm biased towards the Pyrannees, but then I get to play there most weekends.

Drivers here tend to be more aware of bikes than in the UK, probably due to the numbers. I've had two people pull out on me in three years and 40k miles. That was a daily occurrence in Bristol.

If I can help with anything else, ask away. Can't guarantee I can help, but can always ask around.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: France Reply with quote

the six month rule is for road tax you need a french registered bike to pay french road tax
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Private vehicles don't pay road tax here since 2001 (the vignette). Part of any road toll is a tax, though.

Forgot to say: on insurance - there are some places that will take a UK no claims bonus and translate it into a bonus for France - after 13 years you can get 50% off - again, it'll depend on the insurer. Mutuelle de Motards was the first place I used, and they took my UK (car) no claims bonus and applied it to the bike - which worked nicely in my favour. Axa were a little more careful, alas.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: France Reply with quote

almostthere wrote:
After the bikes been there 6 months you would have to get it registered onto French plates, would be easier to buy a frog bike and leave it out there Thumbs Up


But no-one would know how long it's been there.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a 100bhp limit in France? Shocked
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