General Opinion of Sinnis Motorcycles?

[SolHill95]

Greets y'all

Just wanted to ask if anyone has any experience with a Sinnis, this would be a first bike and I'm open to all opinions right now.

Cheers
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Chinese bikes have got better over the years, but I'd still say "get a cheap Jap bike".

[DrSnoosnoo]

Use the search function in the top left corner.

There is a thread made by the guy who runs the Sinnis Dealership darn sarf.
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

Sable on here has a lot of experience with them.

https://sableyes.co.uk/?page_id=1136
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[Sable]

Thanks Shaggy


General opinion, nice little bikes, I like the retro ones, though the chroming is rubbish, the electrics are delicate. My Trackstar clocked up 67,500km so reasonable longevity. Very little rust. Cheap to run and repair. They take a lot of GN parts so parts are plentiful. You can replace the entire engine for under £100 on eBay.

Main thing that will apparently make or break your bike, is where you get it from. If you live anywhere South East england make the trip to Black Dog Motorcycles in Staines ss they can put together a bike properly. Unlike Sinnis main dealer in Brighton, who Gave me a bike that had bits falling of it as I rode in the first 500km. Nothing actually broke, it was just bits not tightened or fitted badly by the dealer. Has however left me with a bad taste in my mouth and lack of faith in the bike up to 3000km.

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[The Shaggy D.A.]

Personally, from what I've seen and read, I'd be OK with a Sinnis/Lexmoto/AJS, but only if (a) I were buying new, and (b) I did my own front to back PDI as soon as I got it home. Because of this, I'm not sure I'd recommend them as a first bike unless the owner was confident with spanners and electrics already.
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[kramdra]

Do not buy one new, and do NOT goto Onthewheel in brighton, especially for parts.

There are better bikes for the money. If you have 1000-1500'ish look for a yzf125 engined bike instead.

Mine was only 200 quid, which made it almost worth while, but I have replaced a lot of parts.

There are several poor quality parts that should be replaced with those from a proper bike - the brake master cylinder from a CBR6 F3 is perfect for the stealth.

The engine is quite shit, if its running well, expect 60 indicated as a maximum, while other 125's will indicate 80.

[Sable]

[Copycat73]

[Alpha-9]

if you're getting a 125 then get a yamaha or honda

they sound like shit and look like shit and from what i've heard need regular dosings of ACF50 to stop them from melting, and made from cheese metal

Dealers will push them on you to death, when I got my ybr fixed up the shop were desperate to sell me one then got really defensive when I said I've heard they're cheese metal and come in a box, was a warning sign right there

you dont need a brand new chinese 125 and they depreciate if you dont get one dirt cheap
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[Sable]

[Wednesday Biker]

From what I've seen I would have no hesitation buying a sinnis.
My ybr rusted badly and quickly but yeah the engine was good and everything else worked like it should.
But Sable has proved that the sinnis engine is pretty good too.
I honestly cant see a sinnis rusting any faster than my ybr did and why not save yourself some money too.
I like the look of the café and I was going to go for a trackstar as a runabout before my head was turned by a scooter

[Alpha-9]

CG is fine if you want a cheap run around for town riding and avoiding A-roads

YBR was a nice 125, never had rust issues and used in all weathers, but I treated with ACF50 and kept the exhaust painted, engine was very smooth, neutral a bit of a bastard yamahas seem to love slipping into neutral

CBFs ive heard bad things about in terms of rust and fuel pump but you know, you hear one bad thing from one guy and thats all anyone ever thinks about them

YZFs are nice sounding and look nice, but are tiny and overpriced
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[Sable]

[Wednesday Biker]

My Ybr was terrible Alpha
footpeg brackets,exhaust,swingarm.
Girlfriends was even worse as she got the custom with lots of chrome.
Ok didn't cake it in acf but it rusted in the first 6 months and that shouldn't happen surely.Did a cat lick the paint onto the exhaust it rusts so fast Literally a couple of months and that was in the summer only using it on dry days bar the odd getting caught in a shower.
My current bike has never seen acf 50,although I have got some just in case but theres not a spot of rust on it.
Not the Yamaha quality of old for sure.

[Copycat73]

[Pigeon]

[struan80]

Honda.

4 month old Thai built CBR650F. Mine was as bad as I've seen but there are many with corrosion issues. Did use in winter, did cover in AC50, did rinse of shit, obviously not sufficiently enough. Pretty bad and the dealer agreed. Chucked it in for another Honda right enough, but one built properly.

https://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy224/struan80/20150611_210351_zpsii0zam9u.jpg
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Yes I would by a Sinnis or any other chinese bike if I liked it. Wouldn't worry me that it wasn't a 'brand' name.

[Sable]

I do think that's the shame if it with Honda. Sinnis and the like won't catch them up build quality wise, but Honda, specifically the CBF, will / have come down to Sinnis' level.

[Sable]

[Pigeon]

[Kaya75]

I had a ybr 125 2011 for about 6mths before I spent the day on a new Sunnis 125, it was very poor in comparison, it felt cheap, and clunky, the box was sloppy and crashed amongst most gears. I trashed the nuts of it but it felt way less solid, powered then the ybr. I wouldnt have liked to have seen it after winter.. as others have said buy new from a good dealer with a view to trading back in when you pass your test. The Sunnis I rode was the ybr copy whichever that is, shame really because they have some cool creativity.. shame they don't do a premium range.. ( worked with VW / Porsche)

[Kaya75]

[Kaya75]