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Posted: 19:15 - 31 Aug 2015 Post subject: |
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yeah my carb, isnt too bad now, a couple of gaskets and ill be away,
ive found some one who does a rebuild kit for vm carbs, so i might get a new set of jets, and possibly float needles,
actually managed to find 2 sets of shoes which was a bit of a fluke,
but i reckon old cb72 (250) shoes look like a match any way, i might buy a set just for shits and giggles.
most parts have been ordered, it pretty great expense out of the states
the mrs even noticed the drop in the bank account, which she doesnt normally notice. bugger. but she just got a new car so i didnt really get in trouble just a stern look
ive decided im going to have to rebuild the alternator, after finding out the price on a replacement item, (more than the price i paid for the bike) ive managed to get the cam that opens the points, so i'll have to free the old ones off, and replace the bearings,
barrels were sent off to https://www.poetonaptec.co.uk/ to get ceramic plated.
here is the left hand barrel, it had the rings stuck to the bore,
and required a stupid amount of effort to free them from the piston.
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0420%20Large_zpspy3n9zer.jpg
you can see the chrome chipping off at the top, and faintly see the mark just above the transfer?? port where the rings were stuck
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0421%20Large_zpshudynk6j.jpg
next up is the right hand cylinder, which is actually in pretty good shape, and if the left had been like this i wouldnt have sent them off to get ceramic plated.
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0422%20Large_zpsgxvssjbw.jpg
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0423%20Large_zpsofdwe7zr.jpg
so thats the befores, ill update on the afters ____________________ the humans are dead
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Some of the older brake shoes you can get relined. Do they have rivets?
What sort of turnover time have they given on the barrels getting re-plated? Did you ask?
If you don't fancy doing it yourself, this mob could do your stator.....I've never used them myself but they're quite popular. I've used Electrexworld but I've been seeing a fair amount of negative comments about them over the last year or so. It's a shame because I found them to be very helpfull.4
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most people say a week turnaround on the barrels,
or pay extra for 4 day turn around, with in a month is fine for me,
i doubt i'll be needing them before then.
the windings on the alternator are fine,
its the bearings have welded them self to the shaft, and the cam lobe at one end is also stuck in place, if worse comes to worst. i guess i could cut the bearings off, im not having much luck shifting the fuckers so far ____________________ the humans are dead
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right been a while.
lots of waiting when parts have to come from the other side of the world,
any way first to arrive was my new shift drum and selector dogs.
i had to buy a whole set to get one dog. but thats the way it goes
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0433%20Large_zps7vp8fysm.jpg
sitting nicely in their new home
next up was cleaning the gear box, removing and replacing all the bearings,
thankfully simply bearings in the uk had every thing i needed in stock,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0434%20Large_zpse1wdesvm.jpg
most of the bits i need arrived from richards relics in the U.S,
the new intake to airbox rubbers and chrome joiner
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0435%20Large_zpswpfuxfbc.jpg
the new pistons, rings, pins, small end bearings, and circlips
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0436%20Large_zpsp1x4tl79.jpg
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0437%20Large_zpsajweabzg.jpg
gasket set
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0439%20Large_zpsxbmpnqu4.jpg
and brake shoes
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0440%20Large_zpsgapn20i9.jpg
and a funky little key ring
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/IMAG0438%20Large_zpsqbaxwlqb.jpg
also a new cam lobe for the points inside the alternator/generator
still waiting on https://www.poetonaptec.co.uk/ to return my barrels,
they were remarkably quick to take my money, but refuse to return an email, i guess ill have to suck it and see
but the good news is i can atleast rebuild the bottom end back up. ____________________ the humans are dead
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Bog-All-Inspiration, but one of those 'thoughts' that come to you when contemplating which way round the toilet-roll should be...
Wasn't it Bridgestone that had reverseable gear selector-shafts and brackets for the brake pedal on both sides, so that owner's cold choose whether to have 'British' RHD controls or 'Euro' LHD controls, just by swapping the brake and gear-levers over and turning them upside down?
And if so... does your bike have that feature, and which way be it configured?
Follow-on ponder.. 'cos I obviously IS full of shit.... The Bridgestone cease of production; Some sources said that the other Japanese bike builders, put pressure on them to cease manufacture or they wouldn't buy their tyres; another suggested that the company wound up production, as it was not 'core-business' and they needed the factory space to expand tyre production; Ponder was that likely has more merit, and a book I was recently reading on the Racing Cobras, Carrol-Shelby's hot-rod Cripple-Carriage; Shelby gave much praise to Bridgestone tyres, as he was developing the Cobra and the Ford GT40; independent of the big American & Euro tyre-co's they were apparently very aggressive getting into the car-tyre business in the US, and supporting racing to get their technology on a par. That would have been the late 60's & co-incidental to the demise of the bikes; supports another suggestion I read somewhere, that claimed that the styling of late 60's suzuki's wasn't ere co-incidence, as Brigestone sold a lot of their tooling to them.... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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i had to shoot to new zealand for my grandads funeral
had his last ride in his faithful 55 morris
(had it since new)
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/12046809_10153558703806224_940654294753136912_n_zpsltaftlx9.jpg
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/12065694_10153558703866224_8460420364217053586_n_zpszu9pv8vl.jpg
when i got back my barrels were waiting,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/IMAG0506%20Large_zpsbeblm8so.jpg
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/IMAG0507%20Large_zpsbkwi60pa.jpg
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https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/IMAG0509%20Large_zpsw5ptpakm.jpg
even champhered the ports for me, which was nice
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/IMAG0508%20Large_zpsf6rohu42.jpg
they are like brand new, pretty impressed, with the results... not so much with the service though.
also the new clutch metals and fibres had turned up,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/IMAG0513%20Large_zpstrvugykw.jpg
along with new points and condensers.
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/IMAG0511%20Large_zpsf11qni97.jpg
and a cool little tool box cover lid which i was missing. they fall into the unobtainium category of rare metals, but managed to find a brand new one in the correct colour
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/IMAG0512%20Large_zps5xhxsvy9.jpg
so thats where i stand now,
i pretty much have everything i need now to finish the engine,
just a couple of carb kits, and a couple of bearings for the generator to fit,
and a few days she should be back together, time permitting
mike it was only the 350 that had the dual control thing, all other models have standard controls, although the 175 and 200 models have cool town and country gearing, where you can have a rotary 1-2-3-4-n-1.... gearing, and with the flick of a lever its 1-n-2-3-4-5
as for bridgestone them selves, i like the being forced out by the competition at the peak of their winning story
i doubt we'll ever know for sure.
i built the 60cc engine with out outside guidence, it was a mission,
pouring over manufactures books trying to find rings, getting the crank pin holes machined to fit new pins because i could only get a certain size rod to fit the small end with the same legnth as original. haveing to mill down the con rods to fit.
was a mission, but you did it a different way back then, you made shit fit, i doubt there is an original 60s 70s or 80s bike left in new zealand, all of them will have parts adapted from other bikes. ____________________ the humans are dead
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Sorry to hear about your grandad
Very cool truck and send off though!
Looks like they've done a really nice job on the barrels.
How much did the work cost if you don't mind me asking? ____________________ Current Bikes / Projects: 1999 Rieju RS1 50
Previous bikes - 1986 DT125R (field bike), 1989 KX250, 1980 KX420 (with 500cc big bore), 1992 YZ250, 1988 KX500, 1989 XR250R, 1988 VFR400R NC24, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 2008 Rieju RS2 50 , 1993 Honda NSR 125 |
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It definitely looks like the cylinders were done to a high standard, and my KMX 200 pot has what feels like a very thick tough plated surface to how it was before, with lovely neat hone marks and chamfered ports like yours.
I know what you mean about indifferent service and poor comms though. I did a load of dodgy home porting on my Cylinder ages ago, (not the reason for the re-plate though), and I used Autosol and polishing mops until the inlet and exhaust ports were really shiny and smooth. I know that does not mean more power or better flow etc, but it looked nice!
When I got the cylinder and head back after 4weeks, I found they'd vapour blasted all inside the ports and took away my shiny finish. They also blasted the head after machining and skimming, so I could not see the cutter marks where it had been supposedly skimmed.
On the plus side the transfer ports have been re-worked a lot and the exhaust tidyed up and levelled out. They could not tell me what the new compression ratio should be, or how much was taken from the head though. All they said is that it should go a lot better than std, which I expect will be more than true.
But it's nice for a moderately technically minded person, to receive some explanation and some specs for the work that has been done, instead of just being told it's going to be a quick motor? |
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Well ya know, dead is dead, and he had a pretty good 90 years, bugger all suffering, so I'm grateful for that,
I'm off in Istanbul this week so no progression on the bike,
Barrels were £130 a piece plus 30 for "welding" and I think tax too,
Pretty expensive, but not blow the budget expensive,
My commuter just got stolen the day before I left, and my ktm a couple of month ago, so I dare say some Bridgestone funds are going to have to be diverted to either buying another bike or bluffing round on the bmw, or the b120, I don't really want to commute through the winter on either bikes,
So I think I'll have to get a really shit bike that no one wants to steal,
3 bikes in 1 year in Edinburgh, fucken mofos fuck me off. ____________________ the humans are dead
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ah ha, well that didnt work out to plan, almost a year since touching the bike.
to be fair, ive had 4 different bikes stolen, done 2 top end rebuilds on my own bikes, done a full rebuild to a tdm 850, and another to a ktm990 (dont ever buy one of them, bastards to work on [] )
fitted double glazing to the house, cut down a dozen trees on the property,
helped convert a bus to a motorhome, started a new job, missioned about france and belgium in the campervan,
rebuilt my old 1970s swiss made revox amplifier,
plasterboarded all of the upstairs and painted, re-wired most of the house,
yeah i know, excuses excuses []
anyway house is looking ok, untill a building warrant comes through for the extension down stairs, so i have some time on my hands.
so i was back to bolting the 2 parts of the bottom end back together, but thought id go over it all just in case i missed something a year ago,
just as well as id missed a spring that activates the "highway gear" selector (basically lets it go from 4th back into neural, or allows it to shift into 5th and stops it going into neutral) pretty cool idea,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/20160816_205345_zpspnemkusv.jpg
and also forgot 2 split pins on the selector forks, that keep the pins in place and keep it located on the selector drum,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/20160816_205337_zps8srycklo.jpg
of course like a retard, i didnt have a single split pin any where, so that made short work of my evenings work on the bike,
hopefully work on this will pick up, and ill have it finished before,... before sometime [] ____________________ the humans are dead
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after fitting the spring and split pins, refitted all the bits and bobs, you know cogs and all that manly shit
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0303_zpshpw62kmt.jpg
then got the 2 halves of the crankcase together,
pretty painless,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0304_zpsltfrxefu.jpg
then went about popping the right side rotary valve and cover,
and what no in prep of the clutch going on,
made a very advanced clutch plate soaking device,
made fully from recycled materials, im upto date and very green in my ways.
i give you mince tray clutch plate soaker
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0307_zps2bagbb6p.jpg
the name could do with some work, but you must admit its very effective.
och the joys of cork clutch plates.
put the clutch together, lined up the crank sprocket,
was quite pleased with myself until i noticed another gear....
bugger it,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0309_zpsnxl07nyg.jpg
wont go on unless i remove the clutch and what not,
of course i can't undo the clutch because it just spins, and i dare not use the 4mm clutch bolts to make a holder in case i brake something,
so, have to bring the rattle gun home from work tommow,
spastic. ____________________ the humans are dead
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What stops that idler going on? Looks like you could just turn the basket to clear the clutch plate fingers. Also, it looks like that gear has some timing dots on it - does it drive a balance shaft? ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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only thing that stopped it going on was the angle of the cut gears.
yeah it has dots,
the crank has one that matches up to 1 on the clutch,
the clutch has another that matches to the idler,
the idler gear has another that matches up to the generator, (which is where all the timing is done, points etc are in the back of the generator)
ive got to rebuild the generator today,
before i can continue bolting stuff on the right hand side ____________________ the humans are dead
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ok clutch off ,
idler bearings replaced,
and fitted all back together
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0310%20Large_zpsqelf3dxa.jpg
next hiccup was i was missing a pin that the left hand side rotary valve needed to turn
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0313%20Large_zpsxzprkeka.jpg
old number 2 screwdriver to the rescue
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0315%20Large_zps0wflc4pk.jpg
the steel shaft on that screwdriver is bloody hard, ended up wrecking a new hacksaw blade cutting it
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0316%20Large_zpscqcgfexj.jpg
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0317%20Large_zpsc4trpomz.jpg
time for pistons and what not to be fitted
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0318%20Large_zpsha5rvbmg.jpg
love the new old stock 60's era bearings,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0319%20Large_zpspantpc8b.jpg
barrel posts fitted
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0320%20Large_zpsxkq5jt4x.jpg
and barrels
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0321%20Large_zpsbckmu9f0.jpg
i have to wait on 2 bearings and a seal turning up so i can finish the generator,
also went to fit the new points and condensers, fucken points were the worng size, but i managed to fit the new condensers,
and cleaned up the old points which turned out pretty good any way.
the generator is going to be the bit that holds me up, along with random carb parts that are coming out of the states.
plenty of other shit to be doing i suppose, ____________________ the humans are dead
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I would fire an email off to Bridgestone. You never know they might send you a set. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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right,
i managed to get the generator rebuilt,
im pretty fucked off though, the parts i ordered for it,
new cam, points etc were all for the older model which had a big gear which spun at half the speed.
so the cam needed to have 2 lobes on it, where on my model they put in an idler gear and a small main ger to get it to do a single rotation for every rotation the engine did,
i ordered the right parts but the wrong parts turned up, this was a year ago, so didnt notice till now,
och well, cant do much about it now,
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0326%20Large_zpsicl1hkci.jpg
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0327%20Large_zpsc9cxxy93.jpg
old cam back in ;(
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0328%20Large_zpsoqdhpruo.jpg
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0329%20Large_zpsnzjrbjyo.jpg
so i got it in place and spent a supid amount of time getting it timed up, mainly because i cant tell my left from my right, and was timing the wrong cylinder
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0337%20Large_zpsg1yg9pbm.jpg
then i went about rebuilding the carbs, setting the floats etc cleaning everything again,
and fitted them
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0338%20Large_zpsfgw0mqs9.jpg
https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/bridgestone%20200/DSC_0339%20Large_zpscmtkzxen.jpg
so thats it for now, engine is now fully rebuilt and ready to fit back in the frame,
but first ill degrease the frame from its 38 year old grease and muck,
change the fork oil and probably seals
change the front and rear shoes, and check all the bearings etc, and order a new chain for it as well,
the end is neigh ____________________ the humans are dead
I kick arse for the lord
Wiring Diagrams BIDNIP it bitches |
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The cam lobe will probably be fine if you dress it with fine emery, and oil the felt wiper. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 243 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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