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NJD
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Adding miles to insurance? Reply with quote

So I may or may not have made a mistake in declaring to little miles on my insurance (first year rider, i'm sure i'm not the first, lesson learnt), time will tell, i've a long way to go yet, well maybe not long enough as my maths (yes i'm being far to cautious and planning ahead) means that I might end up at the cut off point a couple of weeks before renewal, although I sense sooner than that due to actually wanting to use my bike, talking of which..

I'm sick and bored of being limited by the aforementioned mileage but at the same time not wanting to phone up and face another huge admin fee, I'll be sure to add a ridiculous amount to next years policy as dummy quotes tell me it makes no difference to the price, adding a high mileage doesn't effect anything but the price, right? (ie; wont affect them wanting to cover me if I add mods etc? - mainly just applies as next year i'll hopefully be on an A2 bike and may actually want to put money into a half decent runner as opposed to a 125).

So, what checks are done to ensure the mileage stated is correct at the end of the year?

Also does altering the miles effect the overall cost of the policy, or is it just an admin fee and that's it? (I'd ask the insurance company, but I don't want to end up with a billion questions and end up being forced to donate money).

Feel free to laugh at the predicament I may find my self in in a few months time (I am, my wallet may not be) Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the tiny chance that you make a claim, and the tiny chance that they're bothered by the mileage, and the tiny chance that they want to make an issue over a fraction of your declared mileage, the burden would be on them to show that you've gone over, without any help from you.

If this concerns you to the extent that you keep giving therm money, I really would suggest that you reconsider the risks of riding a motorcycle.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:07 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they know how many miles were on the clock before you bought it? If not, how will they know how many miles you have put on?

Secondly, and I'm not saying this hasn't or won't happen but, on my two claims after crashes, the milage has never been checked ot questioned.

I wouldn't have thought the annual mileage would make much difference to the cost of insurance though but, I don't actually know if it does or doesn't tbh.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only problem I see is if you need to make a claim but once the policy is over who cares. You could try phoning them up and asking what the cost to change mileage.

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PostPosted: 18:11 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You loaned your bike to your brother for two months.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

^everyone speaking a lot of sense. Don't worry about it.

For what its worth, my insurance company told me if I made a claim and was found to have gone over my mileage, they just charge a slightly higher excess. YMMV.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
"I had to replace the clocks innit. The old one broke and I got these from ebay"


That's a good point, if you did have a crash once you get the bike home you could smash the clocks if your that worried.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I keep my bike on track stands outside, with the ignition on, and the wind makes the wheels spin."
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:
"I keep my bike on track stands outside, with the ignition on, and the wind makes the wheels spin."


Brilliant. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
If this concerns you to the extent that you keep giving therm money


Only on one occasion and that was because I made a modification not to do with miles, of which I probably could have gotten away with not adding but wanted to be "sensible" that was before the price of adjustment was announced. Wanted to ask and seek advice this time rather than loose money for no reason.

Dave70 wrote:
Do they know how many miles were on the clock before you bought it?


Was from new. Although was test mileage on there upon purchase, thinking back it turns out that the difference between the amount of miles I may or may not go over would have been under if the test mileage wasn't on there.

Am I doing it right? Rolling Eyes

monkeybiker wrote:
You could try phoning them up and asking what the cost to change mileage.


That's what I wanted to avoid, just to avoid the long list of questions that may or may not come with it, based on the maximum fee £40-£45 of which I was charged when making an adjustment (see reply to Borg).
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You rated my post as funny but it was a serious suggestion. If someone else is riding it then that mileage is not being racked-up on your 3rd-party liability so why should it be considered when factoring your level of risk?
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
You rated my post as funny


Rated funny on the idea of a pre-teenager riding around on the streets, not that it's uncommon in this area after dark Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Hi, was wondering what happens and how much to add another 1000 miles or so to my millage limit?"

"Ah, no worries, I'll take the train to visit my mum"

when you took out the policy did you have to declare millage on the bike?

Is a millage limit actually listed in your policy or is it that you got quoted for 6,000 miles when you put the info into comparethemuppet.com or whatever site? (try thebikeinsurer.com next time)

if it's the latter and you weren't asked how many miles the bike has done then the information was volunteered as information only and don't worry too much.

My first policy had a millage limit and I was asked how many miles the bike had done, I might have miss-read the display when submitting that

My second year's policy had a millage limit, however I was never asked how many miles the bike had and given that the bike was 8 years old no one was going to know how many miles I'd done.

by year 3 I'd swapped bikes and no one cared anymore.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit hard to deny the starting mileage on a new bike.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonko The Sane wrote:
when you took out the policy did you have to declare millage on the bike?


No, being brand new could of made them assume it was "0" of which it wasn't, the exact number I fail to recall.

Wonko The Sane wrote:
Is a millage limit actually listed in your policy or is it that you got quoted for 6,000 miles when you put the info into comparethemuppet.com or whatever site? (try thebikeinsurer.com next time)


Yes, I took the quote out over the phone with an estimate amount of miles for the year, listed number on the policy and then the below applies;

During any one period of insurance, your motorcycle must not be driven for more miles than are stated
against this endorsement number


I assume that would mean in the event of a claim should one arise since it seems that no checks are done at the end of each policy to ensure all detailed provided was correct by the end of the policy.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think I've ever been asked what the mileage was on a bike before insuring in... So it shouldn't make any difference. I just set mine to 10,000 and be done with it. I've had my current policy active for 3 months and I've already clocked up 3500 miles Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 20:16 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeDougieDouglas wrote:
Don't think I've ever been asked what the mileage was on a bike before insuring it


Since the company I'm with look like the cheapest and only option next year, voluntary not auto-renewal I'd say using the inter-web to buy my next policy would be easier to avoid the possibility for them to put two and two together, and even if they did if the aforementioned bike on the paddock stack in gear does rack up miles who's to say that they where done on the road, we all do maintenance right?

Anyway, I think the above is assuming that insurance workers have brain power, a slight overshot Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:20 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dial clock back if it bothers you that much
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone I know declares 1000 miles a year. They do that monthly...twice over. Laughing
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PostPosted: 05:03 - 28 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I accidentaly went over my mileage by 8k.. Only declared 3 Laughing Had actually completely forgotten that was even a factor but MCE didn't give a shit about me so I didn't give a shit about them. All was fine and dandy at the end of my cover and I moved on.

Plenty of excuses if the proverbial does hit so just get on with riding mate.
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PostPosted: 05:39 - 28 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come renewal time, it's worth playing with mileages on the compare websites - it may not make much difference. I do about 25K a year, and am unlikely to do much more as there are only so many hours in a day. Currently I have 35K declared, with 25K of those business miles (I do commute to more than one office and do the occasional visit to customers). Those extra miles made absolutely zero difference to my premium (£100 FC), so there's a useful buffer.
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PostPosted: 06:17 - 28 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Bamt said. I did a quote based on 4k a year. Then I did a quote on 20k+. Guess which was cheaper Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 06:45 - 28 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an estimate of your annual mileage and isn't a capped limit unless you've opted to have it capped, ie it's a limited mileage policy.

Otherwise a few hundred miles either side isn't going to make a damn bit of difference
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 28 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it is capped:

NJD wrote:
During any one period of insurance, your motorcycle must not be driven for more miles than are stated against this endorsement number

Yes, but implicitly by you.

It would be perfectly legal for someone else to have been putting miles (well, kilometres) on your bike using their "other bikes" cover.
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