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NutsyUk
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Utterly dumbfounded by the incompetence of the Met Police Reply with quote

Ok sure this isnt about motorbikes, but im sure a number of you have seen the BBC news footage of the bicycle hit and run in highgate,
where a BWM car basically swerves into the wrong lane and wipes out a cyclist...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-48150379/highgate-hit-and-run-victim-hunts-for-dangerous-driver

What also doubly gets me is the amount of damage to the car. Surely someone would have said something? Heck the repair guys maybe?

But the police response to this has been utterly dumbfounding... From what I read, the police couldnt even be arsed to do the most basic of investigation. It even openly admitted to not getting the CCTV footage because they .... Just didnt want to it seems. So the victim had to do it himself.

So great wonderful the CCTV shows the car and even has the number plate.... Great, So the police can now go and arrest the car owner and carry on with the investigation to determine if theyre the driver of the car. And if not find out who was... Oh, no? They didnt... They sent them a letter.....

*face palm*

What the fuck!


Ok its possible the car was stolen, But i dont think it was. Because if it was the police would have said so... Lets face it theyre going to be in the shit for this, and if the car was stolen it would have been that bit of news that gets them out of the pan for this.

Seeing this kinda makes me glad i no longer live in London.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Met said it was grateful for Mr Dey's help in sending them the video and officers had sent a form to the registered owner of the BMW to ask who was driving at the time"

As you say. Absolutely disgusting.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Met are no different to the rest of the UK Plod.
Work-shy, lazytwats the lot of em. If they were all made redundant, I'm not sure that anyone would notice.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair they have had their hands full lately arresting tree-huggers Razz
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardlyDavidson wrote:
To be fair they have had their hands full lately dancing and skateboarding with tree-huggers Razz


FTFY. It's okay though, it only cost £7m to Police that massive pack of soap dodgers, very few of whom will have
contributed much to paying that bill. The enviro bunch (of useful idiots) are actually doing governments work
for them hence the comparative kid gloves treatment they got. Won't have to convince them of your bunkum reasons
to restrict vehicle ownership, meat consumption and all the other guff they are trying to whack brand new taxes on.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/police-boss-blasts-unacceptable-behaviour-of-officers-filmed-skateboarding-and-dancing-at-extinction-a4121381.html

If you wanted to see popo arresting people and putting the boot in then you would have wanted the "Where's our
frigging Brexit?" demonstrations around the same time. After all those particular people are going against
the will of our marvellous all knowing Government, so no softly softly approach for them. Old bill definitely had different
orders for that protest and were told to go in harder. I wonder why that was?
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of when some tosser tried to steal my RGV250 - got disturbed by my neighbour who was thankfully on night shift and dropped everything and walked off (with a cheeky "'Mornin'" to my neighbour!).

Cops didn't want to come - even though I lived just about 300 yards from the station - and when I managed to persuade them, the guy just drove his car up the footpath, stuck his head out the window and said "yeah, okay" and drove off.

This was in 1997 - the station has long since closed, despite a huge influx of foreign low-paid (for UK) workers, who are constantly in court for various crimes - paper's full of them every week, but we obviously don't need a cop shop Rolling Eyes

**before any high horses turn up, I've bugger all against foreigners coming here - worked in Europe myself for many years.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
HardlyDavidson wrote:
To be fair they have had their hands full lately dancing and skateboarding with tree-huggers Razz


FTFY. It's okay though, it only cost £7m to Police that massive pack of soap dodgers, very few of whom will have
contributed much to paying that bill. The enviro bunch (of useful idiots) are actually doing governments work
for them hence the comparative kid gloves treatment they got. Won't have to convince them of your bunkum reasons
to restrict vehicle ownership, meat consumption and all the other guff they are trying to whack brand new taxes on.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/police-boss-blasts-unacceptable-behaviour-of-officers-filmed-skateboarding-and-dancing-at-extinction-a4121381.html

If you wanted to see popo arresting people and putting the boot in then you would have wanted the "Where's our
frigging Brexit?" demonstrations around the same time. After all those particular people are going against
the will of our marvellous all knowing Government, so no softly softly approach for them. Old bill definitely had different
orders for that protest and were told to go in harder. I wonder why that was?


Are you saying they were harder on the Wheres our brexit protesters compared to the environmental protesters?

Wasnt the arrest figure somewhere over 200 or so in the Environmental protest? What was the figure for the Wheres out brexit?

The police might not have been as "violent" with the environmental protesters than the brexit ones because of a simple reason. The environmental protesters were mostly made up of peaceful sit down protesters. Going in there all jack boot and clubs would have been a serious over kill, not to mention a political mess when were meant to be a forward thinking nation...... (apparently) Whereas the Brexit protest was made up of a lot of questionable right leaning individuals.
You know, The national front types...
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

So playing a bit of "Questions to make you think" here but...

Do you think the police should treat this with a higher priority just because it made the news? Don't you think that things like this happen a lot without making the news?
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it happens a lot... And the fact its happened here and the victim ended up doing most of the work themselves, and even then the Police still seem equally unbothered to do anyhing, is the reason why its made it to news, when really gathering evidence and cctv footage of a serious crime should be the polices job...

Lets not forget a hit and run like this is equal to a serious assault, GBH, even potentially attempted murder. Make no mistake this is a serious crime, in which the driver will almost certainly be spending a good few years in prison for.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Victim of many thefts, mostly push bikes but also car.

Police always claim the CCTV cameras 'Weren't working', or 'One was pointing at a tree'. In one case in Lincoln they'd parked a van in front of the camera. The po-po went to someone's house and actually saw my bike but did nothing because of some legal thing.

They have one purpose which is to get a crime reference number for your insurance. As that flounce party candidate said, they go after the low-hanging fruit (and was fired for saying it).
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife's pushbike was stolen a few years back - after about a year or so we saw someone riding it - she recognised some scratches on it and said it was definitely hers. I didn't know the name of the guy, but I knew where he lived and went to the cops and told them.

First thing they did was accuse of us of selling the bike and then regretting it. I walked out, utterly dumbfounded.

That day I lost all respect for them and have seen nothing to change that since.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wyberton John wrote:
My wife's pushbike was stolen a few years back - after about a year or so we saw someone riding it - she recognised some scratches on it and said it was definitely hers. I didn't know the name of the guy, but I knew where he lived and went to the cops and told them.

First thing they did was accuse of us of selling the bike and then regretting it. I walked out, utterly dumbfounded.

That day I lost all respect for them and have seen nothing to change that since.


From recent experience, it is difficult to get a policeman to talk to. There is a layer of "civvy staff" (as if police are not civvies!) in the way, and I think they're there to be obstructive.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wyberton John wrote:
My wife's pushbike was stolen a few years back - after about a year or so we saw someone riding it - she recognised some scratches on it and said it was definitely hers. I didn't know the name of the guy, but I knew where he lived and went to the cops and told them.

First thing they did was accuse of us of selling the bike and then regretting it. I walked out, utterly dumbfounded.

That day I lost all respect for them and have seen nothing to change that since.


It's boring but reporting things and getting a crime reference number means that sort of bullshit won't wash.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same when I suffered a hit and run. I had the footage on my cam as well as noticing a council cam pointing towards the junction too. Had to chase and chase and chase for them to come and collect my footage which they did after about 6 weeks. Had to keep chasing for details like court dates and stuff like that too, nothing was ever just given, you had to ask and chase.

Same for me as well that a letter was sent to the driver, no visit despite witnesses telling the attending police of the reg plate and that it was a dark Lexus.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it is pretty perplexing that the police don't seem to be willing to take advantage of footage / AV data and use it as evidence. It may be that, even with such evidence, convictions haven't be forthcoming. I appreciate it looks like laziness, incompetence etc., but there could be other reasons - ones relating to e.g. the CPS, the courts, and/or the possibility that the judiciary et al have yet to catch up with technological advances.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, anyone who protests Brexit is a National Front member. Rolling Eyes
Or maybe the gov saw themselves as the target of the Brexit protest while the hippies just targeted inconsequential people, like you and me.
The police treat different people differently and are tools of the state.

I watched the most recent TR video this morning regarding the milkshake thrower. I figured the guy was probably the instigator, but I was genuinely stunned at the reality. Police did nothing about any of the three people who assaulted TR and other members of the public on that day. Unreal.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
Yep, anyone who protests Brexit is a National Front member. Rolling Eyes
Or maybe the gov saw themselves as the target of the Brexit protest while the hippies just targeted inconsequential people, like you and me.
The police treat different people differently and are tools of the state.

I watched the most recent TR video this morning regarding the milkshake thrower. I figured the guy was probably the instigator, but I was genuinely stunned at the reality. Police did nothing about any of the three people who assaulted TR and other members of the public on that day. Unreal.


I don't think the police should do anything about the guy throwing a milk shake over TR. However, I don't think that the police should do anything about people throwing eggs at politicians either, so there are clearly double standards at work all over the place.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:

I don't think the police should do anything about the guy throwing a milk shake over TR. However, I don't think that the police should do anything about people throwing eggs at politicians either, so there are clearly double standards at work all over the place.

What about the two women milkshake man assaulted earlier in the day? What about the guy who hit TR in the throat or the woman who hit TR in the head earlier that day. The Police stood there and watched everything, did nothing.
You're saying that it's okay to assault people. Where do you think that ends......


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PostPosted: 20:07 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

NutsyUk wrote:

Are you saying they were harder on the Wheres our brexit protesters compared to the environmental protesters?


Yes. Arrests made are irrelevant. 99% of them will be released without charge anyhow. The primary function of
the arrest being to remove them from the scene of the protest. But the fuzz were definitely heavier handed with
the "nationalistic lunatics" (as the press have tried to paint them) trying to subvert the will of our all seeing, all
knowing Government by having the gall to protest against Mays utter capitulation to the EU bigwigs.
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