Which is quicker?

RooRoo · Anal Intruder Joined: 04 May 2004 Karma :

the rs50, or a cg125? I know a cg has a bigger engine but its not geared torwards going fast, whereas the RS (for a 50) is, I think..

which is quicker?

Frost · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 May 2004 Karma :

rs can be gear to whatever the fuck it likes, its not going any faster than any other 50.

RS top speed: 50mph
CG top speed: 70mph (old one)

CG also has more low down grunt being a 4 stroke.

I think most 50 ped's are quicker than an RS50 as they dont have to change gear or manual clutch. and i would say that the CG is quicker than a ped.

The Tot · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Karma :

CG is definately quicker, no questions asked. RS can only top 100 if you're going off a cliff or if the bike is strapped inside or on a trailer.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

The RS will only beat the CG if you threw it off a cliff first.

LorryDriver71 · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Karma :

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

If you've only been hearing claims of 55-60 than you havn't been looking hard enough on here. Laughing

Lots of people come on here claiming that their RS50 or whatever will do very high speeds.

Think about 50mph is the true maximum speed of any 50cc bike can do in when not restricted.

LorryDriver71 · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Karma :

Oh no Ste, I have heard upto 100mph for an Rs50!

I mean't speeds of 55-60 from speed gate timings and things like that in magasine's and on website's etc. etc.

I have also clocked my mates GPR50 (which albeit is slightly more powerful than the rs50) at around 100km/h (58mph I think) and nearly 110km/h down a colosal hill. Although there is nothing to my speedo is correct it is designed to be acurate upto 90-100mph so should be a bit more acurate at those speeds than the speedo on the 50's and it read's 16--165km/h when flat out which sounds right.

But now you mention it 50 sounds a good bet. I get so fed up of everyone round here claiming higher speeds than they can do. I have one mate who is absolutly adament his bike does 70mph, even though his speedo only ever reads upto 64mph, (He thinks it is pesemistic) and I clock him flat out at about 95km/h (55mph, and even then my speedo might be optimistic)
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Well, at the age of 16 they are meant to not do more than about 30mph, but lots of them are not restricted as they have been removed, and some get stupid money spent on trying to go faster which adds about 1-2mph really which for a good few hundred pounds isn't good value. Laughing

They look better in the way they're trying to be something which they're not, but that fairing will cost lots to fix when it's dropped or you'll have to sell for less (I know not every single person learning drops their bike but most do some it is a fair statement).

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Frost · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 May 2004 Karma :

Everybody seems to think that CG's are slow as hell, truth is they are normally seen going slowly, but this is mainly due to the fact that those who ride them are normally hugely inexpirenced. a CG when thrashed by somebody who knows what they are doing will keep up with any other 125 4 stroke.
The only reason anybody asks the question which is faster, is due to the attitudes of the riders;

CG: I want to get from A to B and not fall off in the process

RS50: Look at me! i look like i'm riding a sportsbike! i want to go as fast as possible!

Dom_ · Points Mean Prizes Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Karma :

I cant figure out when somebody has never owned an rs50 how they can say that it is slower than a ped because is has got gears!

If gears made bikes slower, then every performance bike made would be a 'twist n twat'

Its like me coming on here and saying (with no experiance of riding an r1) r1's can only do 150.

Frost · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 May 2004 Karma :

They are starting production of gearless larger bikes. So clearly there are benefits to having no gears.

Ive not ridden an RS50, but ive ridden an RX50 (same engine, also has gears, different stlye) And ive raced people on an RS50 on my 125 4 stroke.

Peds get up to high revs and accelorate, and pull away witht he twist or the wrist. RS/RX50's require manual operation of the clutch aswell as the engine getting up to high revs after each gear change. the ped will out accelorate an RS50 up to top speed.

When derestricted the RS50 has a hicher top speed than most peds, but takes an absolute age to get there.

Last time an RS50 tried to race me, i just rode up to 60mph as normal, the rs50 was a half mile behind me dropping back more by the second.
They may verywell get up to 50-55mph, but by the time they do so a bike like a CG would be doing 70.

ts50x0 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 May 2004 Karma :

if you really tune an r it will probaly just about keep up but then it will just break down all the time. cg definatly the better choice and it will be a lot easier to ride too as on the rs youd hav e to keep the revs up all the time to get that speed.

roozor · Scooby Slapper Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Karma :

the rs50 is definitely faster, especially when put a 498cc big bore kit on, NOS and have a shit before you go ride it, to loose extra weight! Go to you're nearest dealer and ask for a powerband, if their nice they might give you one of the elastic bands only the pro's use, just put it on you're wrist when you go riding and it FLYS!

It does 198mph easy!!!!

But seriously, they do about 50mph and its screaming its tits off, expensive 50cc if you ask me, get the cg125, nice and reliable!

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Lorry driver, but it doesn't really look like any scooter or mopeds which is one of the main selling points of it. And if you think a bike looks nice is really down to personal opinion which can't be right or wrong really as everyone is different and likes different things.

Yes they can do more than 30mph when they are de restricted, but the market generally for a 50cc ped/ bike is 16 year olds who should legally not be doing more than 30mph.

Oh yeah, and for something to be classed as a moped it is step through (which the RS50 isn't) and mopeds don't have gears (and the RS50 has gears) so it's not a moped on both counts of what make a moped a moped.

bikedudextrm · Traffic Copper Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Karma :

The rs50's are slow, the are much slower than twist and go peds on the acceleration, they may be able to reach 55mph, but takes absolute ages to get there. The CG125 will see the rs50 of easy, by the time the RS is doing 25 the cg will be doing 50. The rs50 is ped trying to look like a bigger bike. I hate it when people claim getting speeds of 65-70mph out of them, it's just stupid.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Woops, nearly got it.

Lorry Driver, if you're going to rate posts with the karma system do so correctly. You can't rate something as abusive when it's not at all abusive! Thumbs Down

ts50x0 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 May 2004 Karma :

so you think that just because the dvla says so that it is a moped.
the dvla class's it as a bycicle on the taxation form.
is that what you think too??????????????
you can get 125cc mopeds but it deosnt make the cg a moped deos it????

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Yes, as that is what is used to distinguish between mopeds and other bikes.

Yes you can a 125cc moped, but to be a moped it needs to have 49cc or less, have no gears, be restricted to 50km/h, and be step through.

So the CG125 is not a moped as it has 125cc (or 124.9cc) engine, has gears, is not restricted and is capable of more than 50km/h and isn't step through. Believe it is only the 50km/h bit and the 49cc which are the offical ones but the gears and step through are generally used as well, so the CG125 is not a moped at all.