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Marclev
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 12 Sep 2015    Post subject: Thinking about winter... Reply with quote

Ok, so it's still a while off, and I no doubt fail some "real biker" test for this, but my thoughts are that it's unlikely I'll ride my bike a lot in winter, I've hit black ice before at speed in the car and the worst that happened was that it briefly slid around a bit before gaining control, but I'm aware that if that happens on the bike I'd at best land in the hedge by the side of the road, and that's not a very desirable situation to me, also given I've only got a few months of riding experience under my belt. The temptation to ride will no doubt get the better of me, but nowhere near the frequency I'm riding it right now.

So anyhow, I'm wondering what the best way is to actually keep the bike over winter if I don't ride it for extended periods of time. Right now, it's just on the driveway with an Oxford rain cover, but should I be investing in some sort of more permanent shelter for it over winter?

Bike's a 2012 XJ6 by the way if that makes a difference. Nothing fancy, but I do have a soft spot for it and would hate for it to end up being ruined because frost got into the wrong cavity or some such while being exposed to the elements.

Any thoughts?
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Val
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 13 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: Thinking about winter... Reply with quote

Marclev wrote:
So anyhow, I'm wondering what the best way is to actually keep the bike over winter if I don't ride it for extended periods of time. Right now, it's just on the driveway with an Oxford rain cover, but should I be investing in some sort of more permanent shelter for it over winter?


The worst scenario for bike wear in the winter is you ride it once a month. You better ride it or not. Make your mind Very Happy

20 minutes ride in town once a week will ruin your bike.

Obviously it will be better if you can keep it inside or in garage or in some shed in the garden.

So if you decide to winterise your bike and do not have a garage:

1. Wash and clean the bike and wax it. I mean it - do not forget to clean well the chain and lube it.
2. Change the oil.
3. Fill the tank to the top to prevent rust and add petrol stabiliser like:https://www.amazon.co.uk/petrol-additive-stabiliser-system-cleaner/dp/B002Y9KOQA
4. Put it on centre stand and also lift the front off the ground with stand too to protect the tyres.
5. While the bike is warm, cover the air box snorkels and exhaust pipe with some plastic bags and seal with tape. This is to protect water/rust getting in.
6. Remove the battery and keep it at home. Charge it and say once a month recharge it with charger.
7. Cover the bike with a cover the lets the water out but not in.

In the sping before you start the bike remove the spark plugs and spray some oil in the cylinders.

Good luck Very Happy
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 13 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wash the bastard and spray it with ACF50 apart from disks and tyres then forget about it. Wash again when winters over. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:08 - 13 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

And whatever you do, don't be tempted to go out into the garage once a week and fire her up for a while to 'keep the battery topped'. It's bollocks, just encourages condensation inside your crankcase and so on. Leave it on a tender and forget about it.
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 07:34 - 13 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
The worst scenario for bike wear in the winter is you ride it once a month. 20 minutes ride in town once a week will ruin your bike.

And why is that, exactly?

The oil won't get up to temperature, you'll get condensation in it, oh noes, might as well throw the bike away. Rolling Eyes

Are you seriously suggesting that you'd choose to eschew a short ride in winter just because it might (in your head) put very slightly more wear on the bike? How sad and petty.

So much headless-chicken sperg drivel about this issue. Ride when and where and how you want, just keep the tank full and replace the oil more regularly.
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pja8
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 13 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I commute, so ride most of year, most days, got the car for when it's bad weather. Don't ride much in December and January, Bike lives outside apart from those 2 months where I garage it at my parents, leave battery on bike and attach a battery trickle charger.

I have a can of acf50 I use throughout the year, a few cloths to wipe bike clean and that's about it. Oh and I do have some chrome polish, do like to give bike a bit of a buff.

Rust, never seen any of any importance, ride bikes that are chrome obsessed Smile love the stuff, seems to last with me. More than happy to go for a short ride infrequently during the winter, may be not though after the road has just been gritted Wink

As for road conditions and weather, if you don't fancy it, just don't do it better to be safe than sorry.

You have years of biking ahead of you, the bike will last and the sun will shine enough to get your rides in, enjoy.
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Val
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 13 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Val wrote:
The worst scenario for bike wear in the winter is you ride it once a month. 20 minutes ride in town once a week will ruin your bike.

And why is that, exactly?

The oil won't get up to temperature, you'll get condensation in it, oh noes, might as well throw the bike away. Rolling Eyes

Are you seriously suggesting that you'd choose to eschew a short ride in winter just because it might (in your head) put very slightly more wear on the bike? How sad and petty.

So much headless-chicken sperg drivel about this issue. Ride when and where and how you want, just keep the tank full and replace the oil more regularly.


The guy said he has a soft spot and wants to take best care for it. I replied.

You are right XJ6 will survive a winter without proper care. It will survive probably 10 winters even if you do not clean it at all and keep all the road crap on the chain. Or if you feed it with tractor oil Laughing

I ride my bike in the winter as much as I can Very Happy seems easier to me and bettter for the bike.
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FlightRisk
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 13 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's plenty of brilliant riding days in winter! Just not when it's icy. Laughing

Batteries don't like cold and lack of use, so if you're really not going to be using it for a few weeks consider taking the battery indoors. A charger might not be a bad investment either - an Optimate or similar cheap device from Aldi. If you leave a bike standing for a properly long time the fuel might go bad and it's not great for the tyres. Otherwise it's just a matter of cleaning and a shit-ton of WD40 or GT85 or similar.
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MCN
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 13 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
And why is that, exactly?

The oil won't get up to temperature, you'll get condensation in it, oh noes, might as well throw the bike away. Rolling Eyes

Are you seriously suggesting that you'd choose to eschew a short ride in winter just because it might (in your head) put very slightly more wear on the bike? How sad and petty.

So much headless-chicken sperg drivel about this issue. Ride when and where and how you want, just keep the tank full and replace the oil more regularly.


The guy said he has a soft spot and wants to take best care for it. I replied.

You are right XJ6 will survive a winter without proper care. It will survive probably 10 winters even if you do not clean it at all and keep all the road crap on the chain. Or if you feed it with tractor oil Laughing

I ride my bike in the winter as much as I can Very Happy seems easier to me and bettter for the bike.


Val, I thought you meant '20 mins once per week is bad' as it will still get covered in cooncil shit from winter roads but then lie in the garage/driveway rotting until next use for 20 mins.
If used any time on winter roads it really helps to wash/hosed off then the winter won't be as harmful but as I understand your post, some folk may not bother their beavers to wash it and the harm will compound.
Which is as harmful as riding all year round.
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And Wodja, what make's your opinion the only one? (Opinions and Arseholes) Or is your's the true and 'correct' one?
(Received in your normal 'contempt for others' laden manner.)

Some folk need to try to wind their necks in a bit and try harder to show good manners and civility towards others.
That will not do anyone on here any harm.
And although there are some Hard-Men/Internet-Warriors on the forum, most of the modern world prefers non-violence.
How those people can post in threads about, 'How terrible the Arab/Black/Asian/Gay/Mentally/Physically Challenged man is' and themselves be so primitive in their own behaviour strikes me as downright fucking hypocritical.

Just because a flaccid rating system doesn't hurt anyone (enough, as far as some are concerned, it seems.) does not give anyone licence to be so condescending 'punishing' in their replies to posts.

And we all can use wordiness but that shite will never help our eloquence score. Rolling Eyes
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