Teng & Bahco Miniature Socket Sets

Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

These are the sets I was blabbin' about in the hex key thread, you gotta love 'em Cool

....but are they any use to keep with the bike? No 17mm, no 19mm..... Thinking

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Teng-4-inch-Socket-Metric-Pieces/dp/B004UEHCMG

https://www.toolgurus.co.uk/teng-t1423-23-piece-1-4-inch-drive-socket-set/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwm4mwBRCni-ivmePYivkBEiQAdGkklg1VpULLpYI-Aa07jc4vlbcCKwkR5veQWtbubxhv428aAtzt8P8HAQ

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-SL25-Socket-Piece-Drive/dp/B000Y8XCA8

https://www.andystrapz.com/products-details.php?productId=201
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

The question is, what 17 or 19mm fasteners would you need to adjust on the bike that can't be easily reached with a conventional spanner?

Another option is a set of tube spanners. Remarkably effective and compact.
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kramdra · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Oct 2010 Karma :

1/4" sockets likely wont have the strength to undo a 19mm fastener, anyway 17mm+ heads are not too common on a bike and there are far more useful tools to have under seat. I dont like the set you link, 7mm and smaller are not useful, same with the few hex bits (because you should have a proper screwdriver as well). Its missing 14mm and 15mm which are very common. The plastic case wont last long and wastes space.

Buy a cheap set of toolstation/silverline spanners and chop in half to keep under seat, they can get in tight places and if needed a tube extension will undo the rest and take little space.

I replace most my bike fasteners with 12.9 grade socket cap head bolts, for two reasons - a small selection of allen keys can undo pretty much anything, and they are very small. Second, 12.9 cap bolts will not deform, and with enough force, you will always get them out (or round the key, which are cheap enough to replace).

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Matt B · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 May 2012 Karma :

I've had a Snap-on 1/4 drive socket and hex set for about 25 years. It is the most used out of my tools for working on the bike, good for anything up to 13mm.

It's small, light, easy to use and gives you a better feel for what is going on. Helps to prevent over tightening because the ratchet doesn't have huge leverage. Wouldn't want to be without it in the toolbox.
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Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

I use my 1/4" socket set a lot too but the sets featured here are a lot smaller.........small enough to fit under some bike seats. That's what I was pointing out really, not their suitability for general workshop use. It's difficult to get an idea of how small they are in the links but the smallest isn't much bigger than a cigarette box. I love miniature stuff....there's just something about it.... Cool

Another tool I've only just noticed......although they've probably been about ages....... are extra wide jaws, slim, adjustable spanners, Bahco do a good one but there's also a cheaper one made by Eclipse that are going for about £7 inc post on eBay......another great tool for the "on the bike" kit Thumbs Up

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talkToTheHat · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Karma :

Sickpup is spot on. 12.9s need to be done up to a higher torque than 8.8s or they come loose. Not really a good idea to replace bolts going into expensive aluminium parts with ones more likely to cause stripping.

The amount of design effort that goes into high performance vehicles where excess material is excess weight and undesireable is such that it's a bad idea to mess with fastening specification.

Unless racing and equipped with a big budget for replacing fastenings and some design effort has gone into torque settings for new fastenings, don't go there, as the best you're looking at is false economy.
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MCN · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Karma :

This https://www.andystrapz.com/products-details.php?productId=201 was half the price on amazon.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bahco-2058S26-Ratchet-Socket-26-Piece/dp/B000Y8TIMY/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1443315380&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=Bahco+s26+Mini+Ratchet+tool+kit

Excellent tool. Thumbs Up

A factor to be considered when applying Bolt torque is the clamping force of the bolt.
|The resistance to deformation of the part by the clamping force of the fastener acting on it can determine what grade the fasteners should be.

That is where some design requires lube and some specifically dry.
Lube can double the clamping force and deform the part beyond designed limits and cause failure.
That is well before the fastener gets to its limit.

I higher grade fasteners aren't always of any benefit.
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Jewlio Iglesias · Banned Joined: 10 Jan 2015 Karma :

That's not big enough. And the lack of space is the reason we need a large jawed, narrow adjustable.

Plus, the nut still needs to be usable afterwards.
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