Crashed biker left in ditch

[bugeye_bob]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-34343385

Three police forces have apologised to a crash victim left in a ditch due to confusion as to which force should attend the call.
The biker crashed near Tilbrook, Cambridgeshire, which borders Bedfordshire and Northamptonshire, on Sunday.
Despite a 999 call going in shortly after 16:00 BST, emergency services did not arrive until 18:40.
The forces told the BBC they were investigating what went wrong.
The motorcyclist, who has not been named, crashed on the B645 close to the border of the three counties.

Bedfordshire Police said the Northamptonshire force told its staff about the crash at 16:25, but it replied the accident was not in its patch.
An hour and 15 minutes later, Bedfordshire Police said it was informed that no emergency services had attended so immediately dispatched a police car.
It said due to the distance of travel, and difficulties in locating the casualty, the car did not arrive until 18:40.
The victim was then taken in the car to Bedford Hospital with an injured arm as no ambulance had attended.

Bedfordshire Police said it believed East Midlands Ambulance Service was contacted about the crash. The ambulance service told the BBC it could not find the incident on its logs.
Cambridgeshire Police said it remained unclear as to which county the crash occurred in, adding it was "clear that a better response should have been given".
Ch Insp Nick Lyall of Bedfordshire Police said the forces "would like to apologise to the man involved", adding they were investigating what went wrong.
Northamptonshire's Police and Crime Commissioner Adam Simmonds told the BBC the delay was a "scandal", adding that "someone should answer for that".

[staffo]

This is a lot like when a mate of mine crashed on the cat and fiddle. He had a obvious broken wrist. Ambulance called. 30 mins later we ask where it is and are told it’s almost there. Another 20 mins and we call again to find they dispatched it from the neighbouring county with the border >1 mile from us, it got the border and turned round. Took 1hr30 in the end to get to him.
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[Rogerborg]

Probably worth mentioning that when I did Biker Down, the fire service chaps made a big point that they don't have any of this turf war bollocks, they just send out appliances. If they're not sure where you are on a road, they'll send out one from each end.

So, pro-tip, if you crash, set your bike on fire.

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Better yet, call it in and say you were drinking. They'll do a blue-light run from every Farce in the land to be the first to get a breathalyser on you.
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[Polarbear]

The ambulance (that never arrived) was being sent from the WEST midlands.
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[bugeye_bob]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-34350697

An injured motorcyclist stranded for hours in a ditch because three police forces could not decide which should attend said he was passed from "pillar-to-post" between emergency services.
Richard Collins, 49, from Bedfordshire, broke his forearm after crashing near Tilbrook, Cambridgeshire, on Sunday.
Two 999 and two 101 calls were made between 16:00 BST and 18:15, but no-one arrived until 18:40.
He was eventually taken to Bedford Hospital in a Bedfordshire Police car.
"It was miscommunication, the left hand didn't seem to know what the right hand was doing," he said.
Mr Collins, a service engineer from Everton, near Sandy, was riding on the B645, near where the borders of Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire and Bedfordshire meet, when he crashed into a ditch to avoid oncoming traffic.

Timeline of emergency calls
16:00 - 999 call by a member of the public - they are told police and ambulance will attend
17:15 - Mr Collins calls 101 and is told ambulance and police will be on their way
18:10 - He makes another 101 call and is connected to Northamptonshire Police, which transfers him to Cambridgeshire Police, which in turn tells him it is a matter for Bedfordshire Police
18:15 - He dials 999 again
18:40 - Bedfordshire Police arrive and take him by police car to hospital
Grey line
Mr Collins said a member of the public made the first 999 call at 16:00 and left shortly afterwards.
But when no-one had arrived by 17:15 he called emergency services himself and was told an ambulance and police car were on their way.
He then made further calls at 18:10 and 18:15, before a police car arrived nearly half an hour later.
"It was very painful and uncomfortable as my forearm was bent at right-angles," he said.

"I was being passed from pillar-to-post. Apparently there's been an apology, but I haven't received it personally.
"All the police forces need to look at their emergency call procedures, especially when dealing with cases on their borders."
A Cambridgeshire Police spokesman said investigations have since confirmed the incident did take place in Bedfordshire by a few metres, but stated "it remains clear that a better response should have been given by all three forces".
Bedfordshire Police has referred the matter to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.
East Midlands Ambulance Service said it was asked to attend the call, which was outside its patch, but due to the high level of emergencies and because Mr Collins' condition was deemed non-life threatening, it could not respond "as quickly as we would have liked".

[Andy_Pagin]

The de-bullshitted truth...

[Minty]

I see a photo of him in the paper showing his broken arm to his mates. Standing on ashphalt and very not in a ditch.

So probably a tale more of "biker waits quite a while for emergency services".
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[zark]

why the beef about the police not turning up?

he clearly needed an ambulance. If he came off on his own and didn't have a collision - what are the police going to do anyway?

Seems to me - this is an issue with the ambulance not having anyone to send, so it falls to the police to deal, who then argued about boundary's for abit. Why are the media not going bat chit crazy over the ambulance's lack of response that led to this?
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

Something I was told on my speed awareness course, if you ring the 112 emergency number you get put through to the local room that covers that area, rather than using 999 which is national.

[edit] Additionally, the operator can tell your actual location in a couple of seconds if calling from a mobile to 112, but you can't call it from a mobile without a SIM, unlice 999.
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[unitynotsocri...]

Systemic!mic infrastructure collapse , like the poor coppers from one force who can't afford flashing lights and sirens on their panda cars.
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[BikerCam]

That's disgraceful from the forces! Absolute shambles, good job he wasn't seriously injured

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[Rogerborg]

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[Triton Thrasher]

[wr6133]

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[zark]

Ah - i see what you're saying...

My bad
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[talkToTheHat]

In my last off, traffic bacon were in attendance quite quickly. They appeared really nice, the one that dealt with me had an old flying brick he was very fond of (yep not a ninja fireblade). The level of embarrassment he displayed when it became breathalyser time was considerable.
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