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binge Emo Kiddy
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Posted: 14:53 - 14 Oct 2015 Post subject: Cheeky Chaly Rebuild |
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Well, it's been a year. Chaly has been stuck in the back of my garage over that period and un-used. Down to quite a few things, one being the new house, and another being work commitments.
But I'm fed up of looking at it, with crap piled up on the seat, looking sorry for it's self.
So I pulled it out into the garden, and did this:
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I'm just finishing off a sandwich, then I am going to drive down to the powder coating firm, and decide a colour on my journey. ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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Posted: 15:33 - 14 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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First!
Looking forward to see where this goes. I've always liked the look of it, and the bike work you do ____________________ Yamaha RXS 100 > Honda CD 250 > Honda Hornet 600 > Honda CBR 600RR > Yamaha RXS 100 > Kawasaki ZX6R J2 > Yamaha FZ1 |
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Posted: 17:59 - 14 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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look forward to seeing this ____________________ Current bikes: RE Himalayan, Bandit 12, MZ250ES |
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binge Emo Kiddy
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Posted: 19:10 - 14 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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So this is what it used to look like:
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It had an incurable running problem. I'm pretty sure it was down to the fact the carb was too big. No amount of jetting would fix it.
The engine is marked up as a 49cc, but I was told by Stomp (As the engine is out of a Stomp ACE50), that it's actually a 70cc.
So bought a carb suitable for a 70cc engine. But it bogs if you rev it too quickly, so have to wind the throttle on real slow.
Rather than keep ball arsing around with it, I've bought a PZ19 carb, as apposed to the 22mm carb currently fitted. Hopefully that should cure the issue.
I tried a stock Chaly carb, but they're so old and fucked now, that it never ran too well on that either.
I also need some plastic welding done to the leg shield. It's an original Honda one, but where it's been pushed from pillar to post around the garage, it's cracked in 2 places. The pieces have not broken completely away, but they've getting that way, so i'd like it welding up asap.
Any recommendations in the South-east?
Wiring loom is/was pure shit. So I've chopped it all out, going to make my own. Will get up to a breakers yard and cut a big section of loom from a car.
It's got an alarm fitted, but I'm going to do away with that too, because it was no good with the tiny battery fitted.
The other situation I have is the rear brake lever.
It hits the floor when cornering to the right.
So I will be converting to a handlebar lever, using a clutch lever, and custom cable.
Style:
I've chosen my colour. I will reveal all when I get the frame back.
I'm going lower, slower, and a little more tricked out. No point trying to keep it stock looking as it's hardly original Honda anyway. ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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Posted: 20:13 - 14 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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Excellent to hear about and see this bike again! I always loved it and think you did a brilliant job on it first time, being a sort of performance retro machine.
Is it a semi auto engine like the 3speed Honda C50-90 series or one of the 4speed manual motors instead?
Either way it's a cool bike, and can't wait to see what you do with it!
BTW what's been happening with the fully pimped out Tranny lately?
And the Rotax 122 ultimate pit bike? |
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binge Emo Kiddy
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Posted: 21:12 - 14 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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First time it was on the road, with the oil filled pit bike forks fitted, it was powered by a Lifan (Daytona style) 150cc, 4 speed manual engine.
Used to fly past 125cc 2t scooters.
But it would only use 1/2 tank of fuel, and then cut out, as the carb sat quite high (Higher than the fuel tap).
Second time (with the small springer forks fitted), it was fitted with, and still has a 4 speed semi-auto engine out of a Stomp ACE50. Supposedly 70cc, but I have my suspicions it's actually 50cc.
Transit has gone to the scrap yard. I sold everything off first, and scrapped the shell.
Split up with no Ex (for the third time), and moved out so the van was just in the way.
Rotax 123 pit bike is still here. It's next to the box of Chaly bits in the garage. Could really do with carrying on with that, but I've kinda forgotten how far I got. Once Chaly is done, I will probably carry on with the Aprilia. ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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Posted: 23:14 - 14 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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I am also going to need some new bolts to built the wheels up.
The old ones I had worked, but was not right.
I'd like some M8 bolts, around 20mm long. But they need to have a 14mm hex head on them, rather than 13mm.
This is because they located in the cut outs in the hubs, and are held still so you can drive the nut on to the back of the wheel.
13mm bolts just spin in the hole. I held the last ones by putting a flat blade screw driver into the gap around the bolt head, and the hole.
But this of course, is not right... And once my wheels are freshly powder coated in their new colour, I'd rather not chip them. ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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binge wrote: | I am also going to need some new bolts to built the wheels up.
The old ones I had worked, but was not right.
I'd like some M8 bolts, around 20mm long. But they need to have a 14mm hex head on them, rather than 13mm.
This is because they located in the cut outs in the hubs, and are held still so you can drive the nut on to the back of the wheel.
13mm bolts just spin in the hole. I held the last ones by putting a flat blade screw driver into the gap around the bolt head, and the hole.
But this of course, is not right... And once my wheels are freshly powder coated in their new colour, I'd rather not chip them. |
How about M8x20 flange bolts, which would be a lot easier find, and you file a flat on one side of the flange? ____________________ Greetings from Shitsville! |
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Posted: 23:59 - 14 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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Both good options.
I did consider the socket cap bolts, but wasn't sure about:
A, strength of the bolt against the hole. A hex head has more surface area than socket cap.
And B:, What it'd look like in a hex cut out hole.
Grinding a flat onto a flanged bolt could be over-time-consuming for me. I'm a little impatient, and there are 8 to do in total. ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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binge wrote: | Both good options.
I did consider the socket cap bolts, but wasn't sure about:
A, strength of the bolt against the hole. A hex head has more surface area than socket cap.
And B:, What it'd look like in a hex cut out hole.
Grinding a flat onto a flanged bolt could be over-time-consuming for me. I'm a little impatient, and there are 8 to do in total. |
8?
Jeez, it's going to take less than 10 minutes total with a hand file, even if you buy stainless ones. That is impatience to the nth degree. In fact, I'd be amazed if you haven't moved on to the next post already. ____________________ Greetings from Shitsville! |
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Posted: 19:29 - 15 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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The hubs have 4 holes drilled in them, which line up with 4 holes in the rim (2 piece wheels)
The holes in the hubs are 8mm, and they have a hexagon recess for the head of a bolt to sit snug into, so you can drive a nut onto the other end of the bolt, without having to hold it with a spanner.
This hex cut out, is 14mm. Meaning a 13mm bolt just spins in the hole.
https://img.webike.net/catalogue/18980/dax-00033.jpg ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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Posted: 19:31 - 15 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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Also, some parcels arrived today.
Nothing too exciting.
Pair of replacement rear indicators, as one of them had broken. Couldn't get exactly the same again, so I replaced the pair. They're pretty damn similar to the fronts though.
Replacement rear innertube, as the valve on the old one was a bent type, and it used to rub on the rear brake drum torque arm. Wore the end of the valve down so much it let all the air out.
And my new carb. Which looks pretty cool. Look forward to getting it fitted and tested. Should run a bit nicer. May need to modify the choke mech though as it's lever operated, and the chaly has very restricted carb access once fitted as it sits within the frame. ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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Posted: 14:05 - 21 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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The guys at BP Powder coating in Sittingbourne are the nuts.
They do all my bits. They're not the cheapest, but the quality is there. They take the time to to tape up all the threads and bearing seats etc.
They powdered lighter over the frame numbers so they're still visible through the coating.
Oh, and I'll just leave this here...
Sorry to disappoint the homophobes.
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12115542_164853627199004_5975248603877749503_n.jpg?oh=e3e854ad8bfd177f292a879de4f6a315&oe=56900100 ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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Posted: 15:05 - 21 Oct 2015 Post subject: |
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This is the sort of thing I have in mind:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iwC8FvrSOfs/hqdefault.jpg ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike - |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 8 years, 189 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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