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PostPosted: 16:38 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Those who escaped the capital... Reply with quote

Where did you go and what did you do (for work etc)?
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only lasted 3 months in Laahndaaan before I was almost completely broke, out of the job and yearning for greener pastures. Got some freelance work up in Manchester in my studied field which didn't go too well - but meant I could stay at home with the folks.

In the mean time, got completely unmotivated, depressed and suicidal - put on a course of Citalopram which helped but completely killed my libidoboner - thankfully off that and now working for a local car auction in the north west - doesn't pay well but I get to fuck about with expensive machinery and its something I find interesting, oh and also passed my bike test up here and got my super-awesome VFR.

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PostPosted: 17:46 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived on the edge of London for most of my life, but it got too expensive, and wasn't making ends meet so shifted to Oxfordshire. Tbf, not much cheaper there either. In London I'd worked in parts and accessories departments in various bike shops. In Oxfordshire, I worked for Oxf**d Prod***s in their warehouse, handling returns. A boring job, but always busy and brought the sheckles in.

Here in Carlisle, no idea what I'm going to do yet. Well, some. There are a couple of bike dealerships around, but I've also got my eye on outdoor clothing retailers, as I learned a fair bit about that when researching kit for my 2 month fell-walking trip in the Lake District a few years ago. Loads such places up here, and always jobs about, as a lot in places like Keswick (assuming it's not underwater - then i'll open my own shop selling scuba gear Laughing ) get filled by Uni types in summer, and they all bugger off out of it later in the year. So that's the plan as much as I have one.

I'm lucky in that I only need part time work, 3 or 4 days a week, and that'll see me ok.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
A boring job, but always busy and brought the sheckles in.


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PostPosted: 18:20 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a few people that have retired or taken redundancy and set up businesses in the regions, but these are all experienced professionals.

If you're young and inexperienced, why would you leave London to look for work? You leave once you have kids and want more space.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mainly due to working full time (on ok..ish money) and only being able to afford a bedsit. Just sick of he whole place tbh, ideally I'd like to move somewhere slightly more civilised, where you can afford to live on an average(ish) wage.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Left about 5 years ago after 36 years inside the M25. Moved to little town near Bristol and Bath.
I wasn't aware just how spoiled it was in London and how wound up it made me until I was away from the place.
It literally sucks the life out of you, it's tense, unpleasant, dirty and getting worse as the amount of no go areas
always seem to increase rather than reduce. It's quickly becoming entirely tribal, and with all the 'benefits' that
comes with that. Yet it costs a premium to live there??? I'll never go back. Much happier where I am now, maybe
because it's still largely untouched by the multicultural experiment gone wrong. If you hear a siren round here it's
probably an ambulance, police cars are a surprisingly rare sight round here. No tribal warfare here so no real need
for them, got a rebate of 400 quid on my car insurance when I moved too. Wonder why that was, the car was
the same, the driver was the same, just the area was different.but whats different about the area? Hmmmm... Thinking
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did a year of uni there, then had my year in China and decided I would transfer to Leeds (birthplace) when I came back. So now I'm in Leeds and it's far better. The people are so much friendlier it's unreal, and pubs are fun, you can make random chit chat and comments on other people's conversations and you won't get a weird look for doing it. Go to the supermarket and the people on the fresh food counters talk to you as if you've known them forever. That kind of thing. It's great.

I'm off to London next weekend actually, and I'm now so used to 'being northern' again that I sort of fear it's going to feel a bit like this - A Northern man has left a trail of terror across London by attempting to interact socially with everyone he meets.

Also, you can't go wrong with the countryside around here, right on the doorstep pretty much and is absolutely great. London has nothing to compare.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 13 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Escaped London because of the ever increasing pace and cost of life.

Moved to Suffolk and immediately took a 20% pay cut due to the crap wages they pay here Sad
On the bonus side, It`s not as aggressive here compared to London Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 13 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have the same job at the same firm outside of London, then should you not be better off as the living costs saved being more than London weighting of your salary?

Or are the home counties as expensive property and living costs wise with London itself?
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved out of London itself but kept within striking distance. Problem these days is that no job is for life. London isn't where my current job is, but it may well be where my next one is. I wouldn't want to find myself out of work in a small town in the middle of nowhere, having to relocate every time I needed a new job. Stay around London and you should always have work within an hour or so's commute.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
If you have the same job at the same firm outside of London, then should you not be better off as the living costs saved being more than London weighting of your salary?

Or are the home counties as expensive property and living costs wise with London itself?

"London" varies massively.

Round our way (30 miles out) a starter home (i.e. 2-bed terrace) is around 275-300k. There are areas in London where one will cost you about the same. There are other areas where one will cost you 2-3 times that. If you're still working in London you have to factor in the cost of your commute, which is more than you might think.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I escaped London 25 years ago with no regrets whatsoever. The pace of life here is relaxed, I have a 20 mile commute that takes me a leisurely 30 minutes with hardly another vehicle to be seen - the same time it took me to do 4 miles through traffic jams in London. I have fresh air, countryside and sea all around me, heaps of wildlife and the community here is open, friendly and helpful. What's not to like? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:38 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
If you're still working in London you have to factor in the cost of your commute, which is more than you might think.

I don't think commuting a long distance would work for me (in my current job), the pays not high enough to justify it, and the shifts would mean getting up stupidly early (when I already wake up at 5.30 Confused).

Plus it would have to be really far out, like Kent, and then the cost of commuting would probably negate any savings on rent etc. A few years ago you could still afford to live within the M25 (say the top of Enfield), but as everyone's getting pushed out prices keep on rising.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

in my current job


Do you need to stick with what you do for work now? Can you do something different? Can you learn something different?
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Do you need to stick with what you do for work now? Can you do something different? Can you learn something different?

Nope, yes, and maybe. My job atm is just a general dogsbody, might be able to spin it as a worthwhile vocation (for CV/interview purposes Wink), but it's not skilled.

My experience of training courses etc. has pretty much left me feeling they're a waste of time. Not saying I wouldn't do one, just that I'd really have to think about it.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it might not be entirely relevant for you, but I am in a similar position of having no current, useful qualifications myself. So when I came out of the RAF, I had to think about what I could do. Physical limitations also meant it wouldn't be easy to come up with something, as I couldn't just pick up labouring or other physical work to make ends meet anymore.

The first questions I asked myself were, what am I interested in, what do I know a bit about? Ok, easy, motorcycles. But I'm not a qualified mechanic, wouldn't trust myself to work on other people's bikes. Ok, what about sales? Didn't fancy selling the bikes themselves, but parts/clothing/accessories I thought I could do, having had some experience as a Saturday lad when I was a kid. So I kind of knew my way around a typical parts department, had enough bike knowledge to get me going, and then, when I found such a job, it was working with a couple of guys who knew their stuff and filled in the gaps in my knowledge, got me up to speed.

Now having moved, I'm thinking, maybe I don't want to work in a bike shop (although it's a possible perhaps), but what else am I interested in? Outdoor clothing, since I've done a bit of fell walking/camping/long-distance hiking. I learned a fair bit about all the latest lightweight gear when researching to replace all my old heavy Millets crap for a 2 month fell walking/camping stint in the Lake District. So I reckon I can bullshit my way into doing that in a retail position, learn more on the job and go from there (hope so anyway).

So before I chose to move up here to Carlisle, I looked up what was around here in those two fields. There are a couple or 3 bike shops here. But also, being near the Lake District, there are loads of outdoor gear retailers around. When I did my 2 month adventure up here, I looked around at the situation, spoke to shop keepers and managers, and discovered that there are jobs coming and going all the time. So I thought my chances of finding something would be pretty good (still yet to prove it though, but that can wait till the new year now).

So I've taken some risk, but also my situation when I left the RAF meant having to reassess, find something else - and I'm not the world's most resourceful chap. I think my point is that you don't always have to stick to what you have been doing, and you won't even necessarily need to do any specialist training to change to something else.

I'm now in the advantageous position of having a small Armed Services pension and owning my own home outright, so you're probably thinking Rolling Eyes right now! But I didn't have the house, or the prospect of being able to buy one when I left the RAF, and this was the case up until my father passed away last year. I did manage to keep a (rented) roof over my head working in the bike trade on the edge of London (Ilford, Waltham Cross, Woodford etc) for a number of years without any qualifications though.

Maybe this will help you, get you thinking 'outside the box' as it were, or maybe it's no help at all. We're all different, and such questions are difficult for others to answer sometimes. Maybe you have dependants, which can make things harder than I've had it, and I probably couldn't offer much helpful advice if that's so. Anyhow, that's my contribution to your question Smile
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
I think my point is that you don't always have to stick to what you have been doing, and you won't even necessarily need to do any specialist training to change to something else.

That's helpful Thumbs Up I think my fears are:
a) things being relative, cost of living being lower but wages being a lot lower as well
b) there not being much work or mainly retail
c) leaving friends and family, although I sometimes feel distance from my family could be beneficial Smile, and friends come and go etc.

I think also sometimes an uncertain option's better than continuing down a path when you know where it leads. Also over the last few years I've managed to amass a decent GTFO fund, which would be enough to relocate and give myself time to find work etc. or maybe even a deposit on a property depending where I ended up.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

b) there not being much work or mainly retail


Retail, whilst not being the best paid or most glamorous thing in the world to be doing, isn't the end of the world!

I quite like working with customers. Yes, you get annoying ones, but you also get to meet some nice folks, and you get to help them out. And if you choose a retailer who does something you already have half an interest in, it's quite tolerable and, better still, keeps your costs in that interest down a bit through the discounts you can get as a member of staff (or cannily chatting up the reps who visit regularly Wink ).

Beggars can't be choosers - if you're paying your own way in life, and managing to keep doing a hobby or two in your free time, the rest is just so much tinsel (to be festive about it! Puke ).

I've left friends behind many times in this life. Being posted somewhere else every 3 years in the Forces gets you used to that I suppose. But you make new friends wherever you go.

I too have a nice little nest egg, which I'm surviving on now, so don't have to worry too much for the time being, but I'm constantly reminding myself that it won't last forever, so need to think seriously about what I'm going to do for work, and can't put it off forever. It'd be nice to have some of that still in the bank when I do find work again too.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get me wrong, I'm not above retail, it's just not my preferred line of work. I have a front line customer service job now, and I'd rather not have to deal with people if it can be avoided, or rely on my awkward interpersonal skills to earn a living Smile
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
it's just not my preferred line of work.


My preferred line of work would be to be a rich, idle bastard Laughing




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PostPosted: 17:40 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
M.C wrote:
it's just not my preferred line of work.


My preferred line of work would be to be a rich, idle bastard Laughing




Thinking 2 out of 3 ain't bad...

So you're not going to work on the rich part then... Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 14 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

techathy wrote:

So you're not going to work on the rich part then... Laughing


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Wow, that was hard work! Think I'll have a rest.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 15 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did 4 years in London.

Moved to local mainly because the 3.5hr commute and train delays became a burden and fitting my 'sport' in was difficult.

Local has it's perks, but I belive, with far more career opportunities; I'd be much better of had I stayed in London.


Glad I did London, was a great experiance.
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