AGVisor - any of you tried that on road?

[Varish]

For whom don't know that.. I just saw it during the first visit in a shop to decide which helmet to pick..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOklEjq1IxE

This mounted on a GT Veloce, seems a pretty good combination.

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Thought they were about £150.

A normal visor is £30, sunglasses are even less if you're tight. It'll go flat as well.

Not really bothered about it personally.
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[Varish]

I'd like the idea of a visor in the uk, with the sun going on and off so often. I don't like internal because, in my opinion, they compromise safety. So I have two options: Arai external sun visor, or this one. Also in the case I enter in a gallery it proves his utility.. I like the idea of having a dark visor whenever I need it

[CaNsA]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[Ribenapigeon]

I just stick a bit of cardboard to the top edge of my helmet opening for dealing with that low winter sun.

[talkToTheHat]

Visors are consumables, they get scratched to shit and then you replace them. That said HJC visors are half the price of shark ones, but last a fraction as long.

Collection of tinted and clear visors for track/race use with tear-off posts

Irridium visor for chanting "go go power rangers" and getting unsympathetic plod

For sensible road use, internal sunvisors work ok, provided you clean them once in a blue moon and they don't smack you in the nose. Carrying a spare and changing quickly a chore and pinlock inserts are easily runined by carrying in a visor holder thing. Sun visor is just there and doesn't need charging. Plenty of decent helmets with good sharp scores at a wide range of price points.

Sunglasses are ok, unless you need prodcription ones. The latter wont deal with sun in the corner of your eye, and glasses steam up or sweat up faster than a visor.

Tape or posh vinyl sticker if you ride when there is low sun, unless sportsbike crouch. You don't need to see all the sky, you do need to not have sun in your eyes.
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[Varish]

As far as I know, an internal sunvisor can (slightly? more than slightly? not sure) compromise the security, because the helmet has to make space for it. Also, I'd like to have a visor. Arai provide a good external system, which cost more or less 70. I can buy the helmet + agvisor at 70 pound discount. The Agv veloce seems a damn good helmet also. I tried the HJC IS-17 which has 5 star sharp and it doesn't fit very well. Too thigh, or too large. What are my other options? I don't see many 5 star helmet with internal visor, and I didn't find good deal on Arai with the local shops.

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[CaNsA]

[14:18:39] [+BCF] Varish: I responded btw
[14:19:54] [@CaNsA] your reasoning makes no sense
[14:20:58] [+BCF] Varish: no? tell me the helmet you think are better
[14:21:23] [@CaNsA] https://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/shark-evoline-3
[14:21:36] [@CaNsA] 5 stars. internal visor
[14:22:13] [+BCF] Varish: GT veloce is lighter than the others, 5 star sharp, I tried it and it's damn comfortable
[14:22:29] [+BCF] Varish: Great. 57% of probability to stay mounted
[14:22:35] [+BCF] Varish: I think that is pretty bad
[14:22:52] [+BCF] Varish: I don't like flip helmet
[14:23:16] [@CaNsA] i can't talk to you anymore, you're an idiot

[Varish]

[PieEaterer]

[Undinist]

I've also read that Arai won't do an internal visor because it compromises on safety. Seems logical to me. I don't see how you can fit an internal visor without either reducing the depth of the padding, or making the shell bigger, which increases the pendulum effect on the neck. Note that Schuberth, who invented the internal visor over 30 years ago, do not put an internal visor in the SR1, their safest helmet.
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[Varish]

[Ribenapigeon]

Do you think AGV ever went and asked any bikers what they would think is worth spending £150 on for a helmet? say an intergrated HD video camera? A helmet heating and visor demisting system? some kind of visor wiper dooflop to clear rain off?

I think a crappy sun visor is about the last thing I would want especially at that price.

[Ribenapigeon]

[Undinist]

Varish, I wouldn't get too hung up about whether a helmet has 4 or 5 star ratings. The stats say that either will save you - people who wear a helmet very rarely die from a head injury. Since helmets became compulsory in the UK the biggest cause of death for bikers has been chest injury - so if you want to be really serious about your safety you need an airbag, plus lots of training to help with anticipation, emergency stops and slippery surfaces, plus ABS, the best armour on all your joints, Daytona boots to reduce foot injuries, etc. If you get a 5 star helmet and convince yourself you're safe...that could be a big mistake!

As for a tinted visor, I prefer glasses with sun-sensitive lenses because I like to ride with my visor open. I think this increases safety because you are more aware of everything. But you need an adjustable screen so you can always have your head in a pocket of still air.
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[Varish]

[Ste]

A £30 helmet from Lidl will protect you better than a £600+ latest and greatest Arai race rep if the cheap lid from Lidl fits you better.

[Undinist]

If AGV fits you I think the LCD visor would be great fun - so long as you don't scratch it! It's a pity that you can't buy the LCD panel separately.

If you want a good deal on Arai you can sometimes save a bit by buying from Japan. You might have to pay customs duty and VAT, you might not, it's a bit of a lottery. I'm slightly tempted by the latest RX7 which has a new shell design. In the UK it's called the RX-7V, £560 for a plain one. In Japan it's called the RX-7X, £290 with free shipping. https://www.j-mart.biz/j-parts/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_27_158_225_4895
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[Undinist]

I looked up the duty for importing a helmet from Japan on the HMRC site: it's 2.7%. For the RX-7 above that takes you to £297.83. Then you pay 20% VAT on the total - that takes you to £357.40. That's one hell of a saving, and it makes the RX-7 look very, very overpriced in the UK. No way will I ever pay the dealer price again! Now I want to import one just to prove that the price is for real!
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[.Bishbash.]

A cool gadget to have, but too expensive. I'm sure it will come down in price in a few years, only then I'd consider. I'll stick with my manual visor change over for £20
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