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roboff94
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Honda H100SII - First bike :) Reply with quote

Alright everyone,

Thought id make bit of a thread about my first bike, my 1988 Honda H100SII. I got it last year, rode it for about a year on 'L's' then did my test two week ago, so loving not having the loser plates on it Smile

Being an SII, its one of the later ones, its got the CDI ignition rather than points, and has the little down tube to make it look more like a cradle frame, which the earlier ones didnt. Personally i think it looks alot better with these. It got the exposed chain guard aswell rather than the fully enclosed one.

Its just gone over 9K, so its pretty low mileage for its age. As far as i can tell everythings original, never been dropped or ragged to much. Came with loads of history, even got the original Honda owners card. Its a pleasure to ride, brakes work alright, handles reasonably well, pulls as much as youd expect a 100cc two stroke to do haha. Its in really good nick, who ever had it before me looked after it and i intend to do the same Smile Runs and sounds great, and smells soooo nice, gotta love two stroke smoke Thumbs Up

When it first arrvied home in my mates van

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/F4119295-351F-41D9-83CD-9A3AC049CB7B_zpsj4pwsgzy.jpg

with the super Polo

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/EDBD1EF1-5C4C-4588-B0FB-AF7BAF54EC2A_zpsswixnsd2.jpg

Went over all the wiring and stuff to make sure it was all okay, last thing i want is it bursting into flames...

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/C1BD2B44-62C3-4F00-A884-C3EE325CC945_zpsjdpobs7f.jpg

Found an issue that the front brake light switch had split the insulation and was slowly melting itself, so replaced that, think it was about 4 quid haha

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/29FBB888-D561-45D8-A442-6ABCD6FC04C3_zps3hxkqtzy.jpg

And as it is now, i try and keep it clean as, dont want the salty roads eating my lovely chrome pipe Thumbs Down

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/BFC72B59-2A1F-41DE-895D-C9FE63C1FC4C_zpsfjp5iq7m.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/067FB683-D2A3-44B1-BCB9-5E1DBBD0CDA2_zpsfkbp9mkw.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/D4140003-0A9A-45C4-9EE8-3134353C2CAD_zpsi9uxzubv.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/DD9D75F1-7342-4EF4-8718-1AC9A54DF036_zps5hr8ypyu.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/EAFD9B89-CDA9-48F0-9604-04B6EF3B393C_zpswjsubfta.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/87A3861A-155A-468B-AA6C-2E173D3E9E6B_zpsuin4ac3f.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/4E635EF5-C5C2-40AE-A8AC-DD32B0FD9CF0_zpsuoxrtuas.jpg

Only time it ever failed me was when it ran out of fuel on the way to work, that was 100% my fault though haha. Gonna enter it in my local classic show next summer and see if i can win a ribbon Laughing Had its MOT the other week, passed with no advisories, and the tester said i have to ring him if i ever wanna sell it, so that was quite nice to hear haha.

Anyways, cheers for looking, let me know what you think Very Happy

Tom
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody hell, that's MINT, Shocked

Did you buy it like that, or have you worn down your finger tips polishing amd fettling it?
Look's like it just came out of the showroom!
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mate. Well its abit of a tale, and here it is...

The little Honda was listed on a certain web based auction site beginning with an 'e' and ending with 'Bay' The advert consisted of about two sentences, and the three horrendous photos didnt give much of the bike away.Id been looking at a few different models, and it was the closest H100 to me, so i thought it was worth a look. So gave them a ring and arranged to go look at it as you do

The bike was in Liverpool, and not that ive got anything against Liverpool or Liverpudlians, but it was possibly the roughest place ive ever been in my entire life. There was some kids letting fireworks off down the road, and some dangerous sounding dog barking its head off when we pulled up. The guy who had the bike had no clue about it, he didnt even have a license, so i had no idea where he got it from. He also had a very nice C90 in his shed.

So the bike was 10 times better than it looked on the photos, i couldnt believe how nice it was. Did a hpi check to make sure it wasnt robbed and decided it was for me. I put down a deposit, half thinking that id never see it again and said id come back for it later on in the week. So after struggling to get in touch with the guy, who didnt have a mobile, me and my mate went in his van to pick it up. Ive never been so relieved as when it was in the back and we set off haha.

So in answer to your question, i have done abit of cleaning and polishing, but i think 75% of it is down to the previous owners looking after it. It was very dirty when i got it, but most of it was oil and just rubbed right off, probably helped to preserve it if anything. It didnt run brilliantly when i got it, so adjusted the mixture screws a tad and its been fine since Smile
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exceptionally clean for an unrestored 87/88 Bike. Shocked

Only advice I can give, is do not ever sell this bike, when you come to want a bigger bike. Most idiots sell their first bike and regret it, and to sell a small classic stylish commuter stroker like this even to buy a Fireblade, would be retarded and stupid beyond belief!

You will get blokes like that MOT tester, and me etc always offering to buy it off you if you ever sell, but they are only thinking of their own filthy perversions toward you awesome little stroker. Do not give in or let them have it. This is a mint bike, a 2stroke, and a very useful commuter/second bike, or sunday polisher!

Id not swap it for a BMW S1000 HP4 covered in carbon and Ti parts.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking little bikes and that's got to be the cleanest one I've ever seen.

I'll need to drag mine out again soon and do some wheelies.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice bike. Belongs in a museum.

Is that the oil sight window on the side fairing?
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers lads Very Happy Yeah thats the plan to be honest, i like it to much to get rid anyway. Theres a few crop up on ebay every now and again, but they seem to very in price so much i wouldnt know what to ask for it really. Suppose its only worth what someone will pay eh?

And yeah it is Gazz, the tanks like a cone shape, so the top quarter last for ages then it runs out really fast, so it deffo needs topping up if it gets to the window haha
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you had the AGM battery on it long?

Does it take and hold a charge properly?

Always wondered how one would cope with a single phase, unregulated, halfwave rectified charging system like you have on there.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Errr well its the battery that came on it, and its always been fine for me. Is AGM the one with like fibre packings inside?
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking one at that! Still restoring my h100!
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

roboff94 wrote:
Errr well its the battery that came on it, and its always been fine for me. Is AGM the one with like fibre packings inside?


Yeah. It's a motobatt which is a high-end battery. Glass matt absorbtion type. They cost around double what a brand name lead-acid one does.

I had always been under the impression they were a tad fussy about their charging voltages. An H100 has one of the most chaotic charging circuits you'll find on a motorcycle. Doesn't even have a voltage regulator or a proper DC output, it just throws all the power that made it through a diode into battery and relies on the weediness of the generator not to overload it.

Good to know it's working for you because I might be tempted to fit them to mine and the wifes 100cc bikes.
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PostPosted: 07:18 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dem clocks!

Lovely bike.
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crikey, if it weren't for the signs of age on the engine case you'd be forgiven for thinking that was fresh out of its box from Durkadurkastan.
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
roboff94 wrote:
Errr well its the battery that came on it, and its always been fine for me. Is AGM the one with like fibre packings inside?


Yeah. It's a motobatt which is a high-end battery. Glass matt absorbtion type. They cost around double what a brand name lead-acid one does.

I had always been under the impression they were a tad fussy about their charging voltages. An H100 has one of the most chaotic charging circuits you'll find on a motorcycle. Doesn't even have a voltage regulator or a proper DC output, it just throws all the power that made it through a diode into battery and relies on the weediness of the generator not to overload it.

Good to know it's working for you because I might be tempted to fit them to mine and the wifes 100cc bikes.


The later s2 models have a proper regulator unlike the h100sd models
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
Crikey, if it weren't for the signs of age on the engine case you'd be forgiven for thinking that was fresh out of its box from Durkadurkastan.


Cheers people Very Happy

Yeah theres a tiny bit of corrosion setting in, just due to age i presume. For that it is i'll happily leave it. The guy at the mot place thought it was a brand new chinese one till he saw the reg haha

Ive got a Haynes at home, so i'll have a look at the wiring diagrams and see what i can decifer Smile
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. That is truly exceptional. Glad to see it's got a good home and a garage to live in. Not sure I'd even want an old bike in that sort of condition - I'd be too afraid to ride it!
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

.Chris. wrote:
Wow. That is truly exceptional. Glad to see it's got a good home and a garage to live in. Not sure I'd even want an old bike in that sort of condition - I'd be too afraid to ride it!


Cheers chris, yeah it lives inside with a cover on it, doesnt like getting wet... Laughing I'm not too bothered about riding it really, its there to be enjoyed, always seems a shame to me when people buy nice vehicles and just lock them away. Obviously i'll try keep it as nice as possivle but not at the expense of using it.

Had a nosey at the wiring aswell, turns out the SII's do have a combined regulator/rectifier, that replaced the diode block and resistor on the older ones had. Learn something new every day haha

Diagram for anyone thats interested...

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/527C32C0-E08C-4CB4-8A18-0182FB49BE34_zpssu0a5aek.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Should cut some of the spikes off if nothing else. Still just a halfwave though.

I'll need to see if I can get one of those for Mrs stinkwheels YB100 and see if it stops it cooking the battery. I didn't know anyone made a single phase, 6v reg/rec.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 27 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Havent done alot of miles on the little Honda recently, been out the few times its been nice at the weekends but thats about it, and the headlight doesnt really inspire me to ride to work in the dark haha. Mornings are getting abit brighter now so i'll probably start doing the work run soonish...

Just done abit of looking after it really, took all the chain guard off and gave it all a clean underneath, was abit oily but not too bad.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/IMG_0127_zps1foghj1u.jpg

Whipped the back light off and stripped that down and gave it all a good clean.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/IMG_0115_zpsqzw4se2c.jpg

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Whilst that was off gave the mud guard a polish cause i could get to it better, was abit dull before under the light.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/IMG_0116_zpsefzmzeen.jpg

Before...

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/IMG_0114_zpsdxotbfmh.jpg

After...

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/IMG_0125_zpsn1hfoisc.jpg

Excuse the stupid grin...

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/IMG_0124_zpsb3eub4yf.jpg

Ordered a pressed metal plate for it aswell, think they look miles better than plastic ones. Debated how to mount it without drilling it but couldnt come up with anything good and not obvious. So just ended up fixing it on with some stainless bolts.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/IMG_0129_zpswaeyzl0o.jpg

Gave it abit of a rev and smoked the garage out abit....

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee475/roboff/Honda%20H100/IMG_0128_zpshwasjksv.jpg

Thats about it i think. Looking forward to putting a few miles on it and getting to some shows and meets. Also toying with the idea of trying to get hold of a proper spanny for an MB80, i believe theyre pretty much the same engine, so i think one should fit on okay. Not sure whether its a good idea or not though.... As always let me know what you think!

Ta!

Tom Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just come to this thread: that is one tidy little machine Thumbs Up

Ride it!............ but keep it tidy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Nice Bike Reply with quote

Nice bike matey its a credit to ya
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a pretty tiddler Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice, makes mine look like the dog it is. Sad

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PostPosted: 20:01 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers lads, got a few miles out on it today Very Happy

That doesnt look to bad fladdem, yours has the different stripes to mine aswell, never seen one with stripes like mine for some reason...you sorting yours out?
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