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Alex A
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Euro4 Ruins a Ducati Reply with quote

Before:

https://uncrate.com/p/2013/09/ducati-899-panigale-motorcycle-xl.jpg

Pretty much perfection.

After:

https://images.mcn.bauercdn.com/PageFiles/555992/1752x1168/959PANIGALE_1.jpg?mode=max&quality=90&scale=down

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PostPosted: 21:47 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure that's Euro 4? The Japanese have some pretty stringent noise limits as well.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So say MCN. So obviously it must be true.

Either way, technocracy ruins a Ducati.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone photoshop the background to the same as the first picture?
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even given Euro4 or similar, there must be better solutions? That exhaust is a disaster.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like both but wouldn't put hard earned cash against either.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only imagine the size of the collector box and catalytic converter...and it ain't gonna be dainty.


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PostPosted: 23:49 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like it Embarassed

Harks back to a time when we were allowed to see exhausts, I can't decide if this time is the eighties or nineties..
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snod Blatter wrote:
I quite like it Embarassed

Harks back to a time when we were allowed to see exhausts, I can't decide if this time is the eighties or nineties..


More like the side exhausts of a 50's hotrod.
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that they're not at all in keeping with the styling of the bike. In fact, they're very obviously a last minute bodge. If they can't fit good enough silencers under the bike, then underseat silencers would be a better fit to the styling. Or twin exhausts at either side.

But it's OK. You can buy your £13k+ 'middleweight' bike, and then you can spend another £3,600 on the full Termi race system that does fit under the bike, where the exhaust is supposed to be. Horrah Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 00:32 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snod Blatter wrote:
I quite like it Embarassed

Harks back to a time when we were allowed to see exhausts, I can't decide if this time is the eighties or nineties..


I think I prefer it too. The exhaustless one looks far too much like an electric abomination Puke (Fossil fuels rock Shhh! )
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost looks like a really poor attempt at copying the stacked twin exhausts off something like an RGV/RS250.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer it.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who exactly cares, and why is OP being so over sensitive about it?
If your in the market for an 899 or it's successor, then you'll still buy it with the slightly ugly new exhaust too. Ruin's is a bit of a strong word, and too PMT for my liking.

As mentioned in thread, anyone who can afford the cost of a new 959 and wants to own one, will also stand the cost of a full racing Termignoni system or similar.

The only way Euro 4 can ruin a bike is in terms or drivability. And even then if you want to pay out for a cat delete system and re-map or aux ECU fiddler, then it can probably always be sorted out at a cost.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am deliberately exaggerating the sh*ts given.

Yes it can be sorted. But it's obviously not what Ducati wanted to do, or it wouldn't look so much of a bodge, and they wouldn't keep the under-belly exhaust in the US. So it's there to meet regulations, which just ends up costing the customer more to put 'right'.

You're also at 1299 money with the 959 + full system. And the 1299 includes a free £2600 exhaust at the moment.
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PostPosted: 04:57 - 18 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aftermarket exhausts will still be belly collectors like the original 899.

It's to pass Euro 4 test in the state that it leaves the factory, what happens afterwards Ducati care not.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 18 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex A wrote:

You're also at 1299 money with the 959 + full system. And the 1299 includes a free £2600 exhaust at the moment.


Do you not think that Ducati are already doing a deal with Akrapovic to chuck in the proper exhaust a few months after launch?
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 18 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the EURO 4 version, looks a bit more classic (90's).
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 19 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fingers crossed the US conversion is simple to do, because damn, that's fugly.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 20 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it's for real

and no they won't cost £3600 as they're cans not a full system, but that'll depend on whether they're made by termi or akrapovic
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 29 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me? or do those cans...
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 29 Jun 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bike Dork wrote:
Totally agree. I hate euro 4 - the cans look and sound horrible now. An after market silencer is practically mandatory now!


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