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I've been given a classical guitar and would like to learn to play it. I'm not going to be the next Jimi Hendrix but would like to be able to pick a tune out of it.
Has anyone learned by themselves/off the internet/from books that could give me a point in the right direction?
By the way, I can't play any other musical instruments and the last time I 'read' music was over 30 years ago
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If you just want to learn a few simple tunes I'd suggest learning to read TAB music and then search for tabs here.
Then if you want to start improvising it comes down to learning scales etc
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I started off on a classical guitar....playing acoustic punk. Used a 2p coin to strum it. Spent hundreds of £'s getting it restored when I realised it's value as an instrument...blah-blah...etc etc
Choose the tool for the job is what I'm advising, you'll enjoy playing more and learning is easier. ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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The fact that it's a classical guitar made me pause in answering this. I suppose you can learn to play anything on any guitar, but (having never played one myself) the classical may be a little difficult for some things.
Try this site:
https://www.justinguitar.com/
All free (you can pay for extra stuff, as you'll see if you go through the site, but plenty to get you started on here), and well presented lessons.
From the outset, learn to play the kind of music you'd most like to play (apart from learning chords, scales etc - you'll need that stuff), not what folks say you should learn. If you start by playing stuff that you don't enjoy or like, you won't keep it up for long in my experience.
I learned the basic chords from a mate who gave me my first guitar. Then I learned to read tab (very easy), then I plunged in the deep end with tab books of my favourite artists - listening to the music will help you to understand the tab better. I did use a guitar teacher for a short while, who's music taste was similar to mine, and he filled in a few gaps for me, but mostly, I've done it on my own. Now and again, I'll go to somewhere like Justin's site, above, to pick up something new or learn a new scale or whatever. But I only really look at stuff I think I'll enjoy playing, not really interested in learning styles for the sake of it.
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When you say classical guitar, you mean it's got nylon strings on it? Not that it matters really, well. I learned how to play in 1 week. Get the tabs for these chords: G, C, D, A, E, F, and also Emi and Ami. That'll improve your fingers flexibility and also put the right positions/deployment of fingers into your brain.
Then it's time for you to find a song simple enough yet it must be something you like. For me, (very early 2000's + plus there was a girl that liked that song and I tried to, anyway) Nothing else matters by Metallica. The first bits of the song are very simple, and you're gonna find yourself soon enough using the chords I gave you earlier. Not the same ones, but the same/similar positions of your fingers on the strings.
The last bit of advice is, sit on your arse and play until your fingers hurt. This gets me quite back, to be honest, playing my guitar with headphones till 4am, jamming with the old RP50, 40min long solos etc. Watching Paul Gilbert, Steve Vai and others, trying to get as fast as they were (never got there, really).
TL; DR: Start with chords, it'll teach your mind to put fingers on the strings in the right order. Then, if you won't give up, try pentatonic and scales, that'll teach you what string and where should sound like. It is cool to know how to read music sheets, but it's pointless really, so no need to bother. Also, the best way how to start with any guitar, is to buy an electric one. It's quiet and the necks tend to be way thinner and strings way closer than what you get on a acoustic guitars, especially the classical (spanish) ones. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Nice one! - bookmarked it.
I used https://www.coursera.org/learn/guitar a year or two ago and found it pretty good for learning the basics. ____________________ Aprilia Classic 125, GS500E, ER5-A1, ER5-C4, ER6 & an XJ6 project frame... |
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I found the Justin site recommended by loads of folks on a guitar forum. He does come across as a good teacher I think. Makes you want to pick the thing up and crack on  ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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The way I got friends to learn how to play guitar was find a song they like that has only 3 chords, there's loads of them.
then find one with 4.
then teach them "House of the rising sun" by the animals.
this is the song that will help you more than any other when starting to learn, because you are picking individual notes in the chords you will spot if your fingering is a bit out.
pain in the arse song to learn in the first month of playing, But you will be a better player for it.
Am, C, D, F
Am, C, Em, Em
Am, C, D, F
Am, Em, Am, Em
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Slight thread hijack...
Long story short. I've had a guitar for a number of years, only really noodled around with it picking up the basics. It spent a year or two doing nothing and the strings went funky (and not the good kind of funkaye). Bought some super slinkys (on the recommendation of a very talented guitarist I know) and started playing again, although I found they made the tone a bit too tinny for my liking. I've just snapped a string, so I'm going to change them. Not sure what to though. Given my guitar is mahoosive (tanglewood tw170 AS), it tends to be a bit "booming" with strings towards heavier gauge, so I'd like something in-between the stock strings it came with and the super slinkys. Any ideas?
Also, to the OP...
I spend around 15 minutes a night going through the chords I know, strumming a few different songs and rattling up and down scales. Over the last month or so (since I started picking it up regularly) I've been able to mimic the strumming I hear on some songs. I'll then spend 30-60min one day a week learning a new chord or a song or something to add to my repertoire. The very first song I learnt and was able to sing along with was Bob Dylan's "Knocking on Heavens Door". 4 chords, although you could get away with using just 3.
It's weird, the more you practise, the more you seem to pick it up. I'm not trying to be a musician (and I'm certainly nowhere near being classed as such, I think beginner would be a stretch!), I just want to be able to strum a few chords and sing along to some of the stuff I listened to as a kid (mostly 90s alternative rock/trad rock - Ocean Colour Scene, Oasis, Shed 7 and the like, which thankfully features a lot of acoustic guitar). ____________________ 1977 Honda CG125
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I've had my guitars for a couple of years now, and even though I know a few chords I'm still not getting the hang of it.... I've tried watching videos on youtube (and Justinguitar) on strumming and it's all well and good when they start of with the "o-n-e and t-w-o and t-h-r-e-e and f-o-u-r" then they say to play it a bit faster..... which I try and to me it's like trying to play tremolos with the chords
Although I would agree with the comments about Rocksmith (you could just buy the cable then download it for the PC as you can get the complete DLC (probably close to 200 songs) depending on where you search.
Poseidon, I think the first strings I bought were Slinkys (regular) and found they were a lot kinder to my fingers in the first few days, when I went to replace them again the shop only had D'Addario (again regular) and for some reason I just didn't like them. |
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I can't play my guitar. It's in the loft mouldering
Here's why.
It's because I didn't pick it up every day and practice.
This goes for any musical instrument.
So my tip is, make sure it's somewhere you can easily see it, pick it up and play it and try to do so every day. Put it on a stand infront of the TV.
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Might help if you switched a light on so you could see the bloody things!
Practice is all it is. You need to be determined to grasp the things you are trying to play, which is why I say, once you have the basics, learn the music you would like to be able to play. And just because you don't yet have the basics, doesn't mean you can't dabble with more advanced stuff too. If you like a certain band and would like to be able to play their stuff, get the chords, try to play em, even if they're more complex than just open major and minor. As long as you also set the time aside to continue with the basics, attempt anything else you like too.
If you can't leave the things alone, you'll progress well. If you can't find the time or make other excuses, you probably won't get anywhere and give up. It needs a touch of enthusiasm.
Booking some lessons with a real, live tutor is always a good idea. Once you have set that time aside, you know that is what you'll definitely be doing at that time, on that day. This is the problem with just using online tutorial facilities, books, DVDs. It's too easy to start making those excuses not to right now. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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then teach them "House of the rising sun" by the animals.
this is the song that will help you more than any other when starting to learn, because you are picking individual notes in the chords you will spot if your fingering is a bit out.
Am, C, D, F
Am, C, Em, Em
Am, C, D, F
Am, Em, Am, Em
and if i can play that on an electric with my sausage fingers you can too. |
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| andym wrote: | it's all well and good when they start of with the "o-n-e and t-w-o and t-h-r-e-e and f-o-u-r" then they say to play it a bit faster..... which I try and to me it's like trying to play tremolos with the chords
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It's hard to give advice without actually seeing what you are doing, but try a very light attack to begin with, hardly touching the strings at all. Don't forget to slightly change the pick angle between up and down strokes. As you start to get the hang of that, then you can begin to increase the strength of your attack, little by little.
And don't be too concerned about every stroke being exactly the same. Variation in strength, how much of the chord you actually hit, and even whether you hit it at all sometimes, will all add character to your playing.
If you are trying to play along with a song you like, don't worry about sounding exactly the same with every note you play. Try more to get the feel of the piece than creating an exact rendition of what you hear. This is how you begin to develop your own style of playing. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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| Triton Thrasher wrote: | | i.p.phrealy wrote: |
then teach them "House of the rising sun" by the animals.
this is the song that will help you more than any other when starting to learn, because you are picking individual notes in the chords you will spot if your fingering is a bit out.
Am, C, D, F
Am, C, Em, Em
Am, C, D, F
Am, Em, Am, Em
and if i can play that on an electric with my sausage fingers you can too. |
E major sounds better than E minor in that. |
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