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Madenness
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 23 Nov 2015    Post subject: A complete newbie Reply with quote

Hey all,

After a 10 minute ride around a car park on a friends manual 125 I'm seriously interested in getting my own, I just have a few questions.

I'm aware I need to do the CBT and once that is complete I can ride any bike up to 125 with learner plates. Do I not need to do a Theory at all (I have been driving my car for 5+years)

Should I take lessons before a CBT, like you do with a car?

When I look to purchase a bike they are all 5k-20k miles, whys that all about? How can a bike 7+ years old only do so little? I'll be using mine to commute and go on rides with friends etc so I'll be hitting 9k per year. I'm used to buying cars that ave 100k and run fine, how long does a bike last?

How often do you service a bike and how much are the costs?

Lastly, I've been told to ignore Chinese imports etc but I'm struggling to know what to look for. I'm currently looking at a Yamaha XT125 For £1500 at 21k miles. I don't see any bikes at 30k+ miles so I'm essnetialy paying £1500 for a year's worth of bike. Or am I misssing something huge here?

I posted this on my phone, apologies for what is most likely a post full of typos.
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 23 Nov 2015    Post subject: Re: A complete newbie Reply with quote

Madenness wrote:
Do I not need to do a Theory at all (I have been driving my car for 5+years)

You do not need a theory to ride a 125 on L plates.

You will need to do a motorcycle theory (it's essentially the same as the car one with a few bike questions) before sitting any actual tests to get a non-provisionaL license.


Madenness wrote:
Should I take lessons before a CBT, like you do with a car?

No. It's Compulsory Basic Training. If you've had a wobble round a car park and enjoyed it then you're already better prepared than you need to be.



Madenness wrote:
How can a bike 7+ years old only do so little?

A lot of bikes only get used in summer, or for short commutes, and many owners have other vehicles.

My commute is 25 miles * 4.5-ish days a week * 48 weeks a year = 5400 miles. That's split across two bikes and a car.


Madenness wrote:
How often do you service a bike and how much are the costs?

A 125 will want an 1 litre oil change every 1000 miles. Any cheap generic 10W40 oil will do. Tyres will cost you about as much as a car (same ballpark price, half the tyres, twice as often). You'll go though brake pads faster, and chain/sprocket sets every 10,000 - 20,000 miles or so, but on a 125 they're not expensive.

Expect to see about 100mpg out of a 125.

XT125 is fine, go as low mileage as you can because regular maintenance doesn't magically reverse wear and tear.

Sable on here got (IIRC) 44,000 miles out of a Sinnis Trackstar import before ripping the sump off on a mini roundabout, so don't completely dismiss them.

However, once you're bitten by the bug then you'll want to get licensed up and onto bigger bikes ASAP. Even a 250 offers a lot more usable open-road performance than a 125.

Enjoy, it's ace.
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Val
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 28 Nov 2015    Post subject: Re: A complete newbie Reply with quote

Madenness wrote:
Hey all,

After a 10 minute ride around a car park on a friends manual 125 I'm seriously interested in getting my own, I just have a few questions.

How often do you service a bike and how much are the costs?

Lastly, I've been told to ignore Chinese imports etc but I'm struggling to know what to look for. I'm currently looking at a Yamaha XT125 For £1500 at 21k miles.


Welcome to the BCF Very Happy

Service cost is mostly oil and tyres if you do the service yourself.

On a bike that is easy. Depends on your bike prescribed servising.

Say on YBR 125 service is as follows

100km or 600 miles,

6000 km or 3500miles.

12000 km or 7000 miles

18000 kn or 10500 miles

24000 km or 14000 miles.

Make sure you buy quality good oil. You need just 1 liter on 125 and the difference between crappy oil and excellent one will be about £2-3 pounds. Seriously engine and clutch are expensive oil is cheap.

https://125ccbikeclub.awardspace.co.uk/oil.htm

More likely you will have the 125 very short time so any Honda or Yamaha will do. Good condition YBR is about £800-£1000. No need to pay more than 1k for 125. Save your money for bigger bike.
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