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 Posted: 04:21 - 11 Dec 2015 Post subject: Fixed dual cameras black box project |
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Mounted PDM60 power distribution module. https://pdm60.com/
I have used the headlight fuse cable to get positive voltage for ignition trigger signal wire of PDM60. Glued PDM60 to the back of the fender under the seat storage place with 3M patch. Now I have fuseless power suplied for heated clothes, sat nav and 2 cameras. Mounted permanently at the back on the grab rail my cheap 720p GoPro £20 clone. I bought cheap Firefly 6S 4k camera for £60 Black Friday deal, when it arrives will mount it permanently in the front under the fairing.
Black box fixed dual cameras project almost done
https://www.gearbest.com/action-cameras/pp_239152.html
Cost of the two cameras: £80. ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
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So you bought a small programmable computer to do the job of a 12v relay and two fuses?
What benefit does this wonder-device provide over more conventional wiring?
Genuinely interested. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I wired LEDs directly into my CANBUS wiring and they worked. What did I do wrong?
The delay before going live / live after switch off is an interesting feature, to be fair. I might pay up to about £10 for one. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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Just had read up on it
Its basically a programmable distribution box to replace seperate relays and fuses
with 6 individually programable outputs giving a total 60A of output.
£130 from nippy normans
There's a 7 second delay before it enables devices after switch on
The instructions do warn about the constant 50mA draw which could pull a battery down if
the bike is left unattended for any length of time.
An overcurrent condition on any output will shut that output down until a power cycle
when it will try again (and shut down again if the fault persists)
Yeah I get it, nifty I spose, but wouldn't be in a hurry to buy one
but then I don't have a shit load of stuff bolted on the bike.
setup and info pdf:
https://pdm60.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/PDM60-General-Installation-and-Operation-Manual-052213-1.pdf ____________________ bikers smell of wee |
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For £130 (which is roughly the price difference between one of those and a modular, microrelay fuse box with 6 outputs of roughly the same size), I'd be prepared to do a fair bit of learning and fiddling. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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https://www.leisurebatterysystems.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d83_durite-mpower-merlin-vsr_relay.html
Is what I'd use if I didn't want to dig into the loom for extra power supplies..just needs connection to battery and away to go. Obviously needs fused feed somewhere but that's no biggie. ____________________ Hyosung cruise 125(passed test on, sold) Kawasaki el 252 (better than expected but sold on) Kawasaki GPZ500S first "big"bike.(sold) ZZR600 E5..Z750 2007,ER5, currently on a 2008 Enfield bullet electra x and loving it..
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https://www.leisurebatterysystems.co.uk/contents/en-uk/d83_durite-mpower-merlin-vsr_relay.html
Is what I'd use if I didn't want to dig into the loom for extra power supplies..just needs connection to battery and away to go. Obviously needs fused feed somewhere but that's no biggie. ____________________ Hyosung cruise 125(passed test on, sold) Kawasaki el 252 (better than expected but sold on) Kawasaki GPZ500S first "big"bike.(sold) ZZR600 E5..Z750 2007,ER5, currently on a 2008 Enfield bullet electra x and loving it..
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Ah I wouldn't use it to connect another battery rather just as an automated power switch box kinda like the expensive one in op.
I just used a fuse jumper from the horn circuit on the z750 to switch a 4 pin relay. ____________________ Hyosung cruise 125(passed test on, sold) Kawasaki el 252 (better than expected but sold on) Kawasaki GPZ500S first "big"bike.(sold) ZZR600 E5..Z750 2007,ER5, currently on a 2008 Enfield bullet electra x and loving it..
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| stinkwheel wrote: | So you bought a small programmable computer to do the job of a 12v relay and two fuses?
What benefit does this wonder-device provide over more conventional wiring?
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The relays are unreliable. They have moving parts and sooner or later fail.
The most of the benefits are if you have more then one circuit to connect.
Say you have 4 circuits like me: sat nav, heated clothes, two cameras. You will need 4 relays and 4 fuses. That means a big fuse box. A lot of place needed and hazzle to mount the 4 relays. INB4 not good idea to use 1 relay with 4 fuses because of the load. It will produce arc and too much current surge. Sparks may fly. Do not want that under my ass near the battery and the tank hapenning
This gadget is more safer, reliable, smaller and simpler to install with less wires. It is designed for lazy people and that is exactly me
Also I hate changing fuses. This one has electronic fuse on each line. It works automatically.
Granted it is expensive, but if I change bikes I can just unbolt it and put it on the next bike. ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
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Here is the update for the poor man 4k Ultra High Definition UHD action cameras dual set up.
I hate to spend money for electronics. Its all made in China anyway. Here is my poor man cameras project cost around £100 for two cameras including cables. This does not include PDM60. Youcan replace it with cheap relay and a fuse as pointed out by Stinky
My £60 Firefly 6S arrived after 3 weeks.
https://www.gearbest.com/action-cameras/pp_239152.html
I had old clone of the clone £20 1080p one too. So here is my black box permanent two camera set up.
The only expensive bit is PDM60, but you can use a relay and a fuse.
I have mounted the 4k camera in front and the other on the back.
It is permanet mounting. Have used soldering iron to make a nice holes in the waterproof cases for both so that I can plug USB cables. Than sealed with some silicone.
Both cables are zip tied and go under the seat where I have two ports USB socket mounted and connected to the PDM60. After I turn the ignition on PDM69 gives me nice 7 seconds delay before turning the power for the USB socket on.
Both cameras are set up in DVR mode, means you turn power they start recording, turn of power stops recoring.
Kind of black box set up. Both have 32Gb cards and are set up to record 5 minute clips in never ending cycle mode.
Because the cameras are sealed I use laptop to connect and download videos:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/638/23593472760_dbd254ca72_h.jpg
Back camera:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5705/23260969194_a951a49bb5_h.jpg
Front camera Firefly 6S:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/623/23593490180_8ca9526282_h.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5675/23261035964_3e142d5d0c_h.jpg
Now I need to find simple 4k UHD video editor. Apparently Movie Maker does not supports higher resolution
Edit: found free brilliant 4k UHD video editor. This one works out of the box after installation no messing needed.
Shortcut video editor: https://www.shotcut.org/bin/view/Shotcut/Download
There is no help. Here is all you need to know for simple editing:
File Open -> drag on timeline.
Click Save to save your new project.
Drag the vertical marker to go somewhere.
Click L to play. Click L again to play faster.
Click J to play backwarsd. Click J again for faster.
Click K to stop playing.
Click S to make a cut.
Here is what I do to remove some unwanted part:
Click S to make a cut in the begining of the unwanted part. Go to end of the unwanted part by playing it and click K to stop there. Than Click S again. Right click mouse pointing somewhere over unwanted part and choose "Lift". You will see brown gap where unwanted part was. Again right click and choose "Remove".
Now you have one wanted part and next to it your next wanted part. Drag any of the two and make them overlap a little. This way you create smooth transition between parts to avoid jumping.
After you've finished all editing click Save to save the porject.
Click "Encode" tab and you will see:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/641/23262357613_faa446dcc5_o.jpg
Click encode file and chose a name say "MyCut1.mp4".
Go drink cofee. Even short encoding will taje some time like 30 minutes.
Enjoy your ultra high definition UHD 4k new video
This high resolution 2886x2160 makes 6 minutes video 1.4Gb which takes 230 minutes to upload on youtube, because youtube creates 8 videos to cover all lower resolutions too.
Links with sample 4k videos to follow, after 240 minutes  ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
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You want to cut the time down to no more than 5 mins. Mine in the car cycles at 1 min.
Smaller files = less chance of them getting corrupted due to power dropping etc.
Sending the bike down the road could lead the the file you need being unviewable. At least with something like a 1 min cycle you will still get the build up.
Also makes for ease of transfer and editing.
But why 4K? Where/what are these files for? ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 43 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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