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PostPosted: 13:01 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: How does a restriction kit affect power? Reply with quote

Does a restriction kit with inlet washers reduce power throughout the rpm range or just at the top end?
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They mostly only effect the higher power parts of the engines performance I ridden restricted bike where you hardly notice it others have had flat spots but that is rare and I think why the current rules restrict the max power you can restrict from
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

my fazer 600 had washers in when i got it...

Seemed to run fine, picked up nicely and just ran out of puff around 70mph (ish)

I only rode it for half an hour though before removing them, but i do remember thinking - 'this is actually pretty quick enough' with them in while going up through the gears.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

my zzr600 could get a bit asthmatic if you tried to wind the throttle on too quickly as the airflow was restricted, steadily winding it on and it was fairly happy.

Still enough to beat a porsche up a motorway slip road.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now the restriction is at a sensible value, not a great deal.

The restriction will only make much difference when you are caning it or trying top speed runs.

Certainly far less soul destroying than the old 33hp restriction.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: Re: How does a restriction kit affect power? Reply with quote

I can't believe nobody has answered the question in the title yet.

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How does a restriction kit affect power?


It restricts it.

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PostPosted: 22:36 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bandit seemed to loose a bit or torque at 5-9k but still got a fair shift on and still had plenty of pull at motorway speeds and then some. It didn't feel like it choked the bike it still revved smothly and accept a thrashing without spluttering and wheezing just that loss of midrange that was most noticable
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

On a bike with CV carbs, should act pretty much like the last half (or so) of throttle as zero effect.

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PostPosted: 23:47 - 16 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never understood why anyone would want to ride a restricted bike. A 600 that does 65 is no better than a 125 that does 65 except it is heavier and less nimble.
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I have never understood why anyone would want to ride a restricted bike. A 600 that does 65 is no better than a 125 that does 65 except it is heavier and less nimble.


It's not quite that bad. I saw 120 on the clocks off my restricted ER6, so it could at least make it over the ton.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I have never understood why anyone would want to ride a restricted bike. A 600 that does 65 is no better than a 125 that does 65 except it is heavier and less nimble.


Both the two in my sig would do the ton, but be out of chuff when you pushed them any further over it with they had/have the restriction. Indicated anyhow.

I'll take the restriction over the 125 any day again :p
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

535 would get a bit wheezy. Perhaps with the restrictors in, i would be changing gear about 1000 rpm earlier. That was 33bhp from a claimed 46bhp by restricting the exhaust down to about my thumb's diameter.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
535 would get a bit wheezy. Perhaps with the restrictors in, i would be changing gear about 1000 rpm earlier. That was 33bhp from a claimed 46bhp by restricting the exhaust down to about my thumb's diameter.


A restricted 535 I test rode a few years back couldn't get out of its own way, and struggled to hit 70. Did not want.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ZX6 was restricted to 33bhp for a while with inlet washers+throttle pin.

Would still shift nicely in the lower half of the range staying in lower gears but then it would bog down massively or the throttle would stop once you tried to exceed it further. Noticably slower compared to it unrestricted now regardless, but it was enough for comfortably overtaking most of the time and getting ahead of cars at the lights.

Would get upto about 110 just. On private roads etc etc etc
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Restriction is shit, you'll get bored after a week.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first bike was an A2-restricted Honda NTV650. The kit consisted of rings mounted between the carbs and inlet ports, I could feel a bit more torque when the bike was stock but only in the last 1000 RPM range. Top speed and fast motorway cruising was somewhat easier but 48 HP was quite alright.

My second A2-restricted bike was a Kawasaki GPZ500S. This time the kit consisted of a throttle travel restrictor which killed the bike's feel. The powerband would normally kick ind hard at around 7K revs, but the kit kinda ruined it. 0-100 km/h reached about 3 seconds slower and top speed was 160 km/h instead of 210-ish.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Restriction was wank in my day. 33bhp meant most bikes couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Fortunately mine and many other's restrictors fell out quite quickly.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trick was to buy a light bike that fell under 33bhp or else pick something that would restrict well like say a cbr250, cb500s or a bros maybe?

Though you could restrict anything which was quite how it should be, the people with 33bhp blades or hayabusas were doing it all wrong! Wink
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never owned a restricted bike, as far as I'm aware, I sometimes have my doubts about the CB400, but I then remember it doesn't have much anyway. Laughing

I just bought a 22bhp crosser, the only time a policeman actually questioned the power output, his bummer colleague actually owned a TTR250 and confirmed for me that it was nowhere near 33bhp. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 17 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copyhat - Denmark wrote:

My second A2-restricted bike was a Kawasaki GPZ500S. This time the kit consisted of a throttle travel restrictor which killed the bike's feel. The powerband would normally kick ind hard at around 7K revs, but the kit kinda ruined it. 0-100 km/h reached about 3 seconds slower and top speed was 160 km/h instead of 210-ish.


Was this with a 25 or 35kw restriction?

My CB500 has a 35kw restricion at the moment. Will be unrestricted in 4 months time. Was wondering if I would notice an improvement.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 18 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
A restricted 535 I test rode a few years back couldn't get out of its own way, and struggled to hit 70. Did not want.


There was something up with that. Mine would find 70 quite happily. Got wheezy not long after mind.

I suppose the restriction feel depends a lot on how its done. If there had been throttle travel or intake restrictions on the 535 it would have likely been as uninteresting as described above. Restricted by exhast washers was a fitting/maintenance/removal nightmare.
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PostPosted: 02:45 - 18 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I have never understood why anyone would want to ride a restricted bike. A 600 that does 65 is no better than a 125 that does 65 except it is heavier and less nimble.


You do realise the restriction is now at 46hp, not 33 right?
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