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Posted: 11:45 - 18 Dec 2015 Post subject: Lending a bike for 2 months: insurance options? |
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Hi all,
I’m considering lending a bike to a friend for two months.
I am the registered keeper of the bike and my current insurance does not cover any other riders.
What can we do with respect to insurance if I am going to lend this person the bike for 2 months? This person is not related to me and does not live at my same address.
1) Can this person buy an insurance on the bike, in his name only, even if I am still the registered keeper, and even if I would keep my insurance? In other words, the vehicle would be insured twice – is this a problem? This way, if he were to have an accident, my insurance would not be affected, right?
2) Alternatively, can I add him as a named rider? Would this be considered fronting? It could be argued this person will be the main rider but for two months only. If he were to have an accident, would my insurance be affected even if I have nothing to do myself with the accident?
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Posted: 11:49 - 18 Dec 2015 Post subject: |
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It would be easier for him to speak to a broker and arrange his own insurance - I've done this before (admittedly many years ago so things may have changed now...).
You need to be prepared to lose your mate though, if he stacks it and you quibble about costs. Best to agree a 'you bin it, you've bought it' value beforehand, write it on a piece of paper and both of you sign and date it. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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Londoner2015 wrote: | I appreciate your point, but that's not exactly what I had asked. Let's say he sorts out his insurance. Let's say he shows me copy of the certificate, gives me a copy I keep in a safe, and signs a declaration with his own blood that said insurance is valid
In other words, let's say the fact that he has insurance is not in dispute in any way. My question is: if he has an accident, can my insurance be in any way affected? If yes, how and why? |
The consensus from a quick Google is that if there are two insurance policies present on a vehicle, any claim will be split between the two insurers. So, yes, if you also have a policy on the vehicle, you stand to lose if your mate has a crash.
I guess, technically, the vehicle is insured to be driven by a list of drivers. You are not insuring the people, you're insuring the bike. 2 policies appears to mean each insurer shells out 50%.
Penultimate post in this thread, for example: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=3332524 |
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Even if the two insurance policies cover different drivers? |
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TheArchitect wrote: | Borg will likely correct this if I'm wrong |
arry.
The worst case I can see is that matey-mate gets insurance, shows the cert, then cancels it, knowing that the bike will still be on the MID. Or, his underwriter cancels it because they find that the bike is already covered.
Then he stacks it into a bus queue of nuns and kittens.
OP's insurance then has to pick up the bill and can chase OP for not limiting their liability.
All this is pretty unlikely, mind.
I'd ask your broker about putting him on your cover, and the costs and implications. I know it's not very gangsta to go legit, but it might be the simplest way. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 8 years, 128 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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