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PostPosted: 23:14 - 20 Dec 2015    Post subject: Modified bike insurance Reply with quote

Well, it's a couple of months until insurance time comes up again, but wondered if anyone had any recommendations for companies that will cover a modified bike? Last renewal time I wasted a whole crap load of time with the following sort of conversations:

Me: Do you cover modified bikes?

Ins: Yes, we do (sometimes with the sentence "we specialise in modified bikes")

At this point, go through all the usual details until

Ins: Is the bike modified in any way?

Me: Yes, that's why I asked earlier...

Ins: What modifications have been done?

Me: I have changed the handlebars, the wheels, the gearbox, the swingarm, the rear shock (and so on).

Ins: I'm afraid we can't quote for that.

Me: But you said you covered (/specialised in) modified bikes?

Ins: We do, but that is too modified.

Me: What do you class as modifications you can cover (/specialise in) then?

Ins: Stickers, heated grips, double bubble screens.

Me: Fucking hell.


So, any companies that cover bikes that have actually been modified instead of just having trinkets bolted on?
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 20 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

but they where on it when you bought the bike.. how where you to know it wasn't standard
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, you may have queered the pitch by ever declaring modifications.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikesure cover heavily modified bikes.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the modifications have made a significant difference to the power output or handling characteristics, from the original manufacturer's specification - I wouldn't bother declaring them.

Things like additional lighting, panniers and top box, screens, crash bars, etc. are usually considered to be 'accessories' and usually only need to be declared if you want them covered for theft - but expect to pay extra for them.

Try Swintons - I have found them pretty good at finding cover for non-standard circumstances.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've only ever declared one thing to my insurers and thats the exhaust.

All of them are utterly clueless as to how any mod might effect a bike.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:


Things like additional lighting, panniers and top box, screens, crash bars, etc. are usually considered to be 'accessories' and usually only need to be declared if you want them covered for theft - but expect to pay extra for them.

Try Swintons - I have found them pretty good at finding cover for non-standard circumstances.


All those things come under the 'trinkets' category Wink

I'm currently with Swinton anyway...
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rubyhorse2 wrote:
All of them are utterly clueless as to how any mod might effect a bike.


Affect.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:
rubyhorse2 wrote:
All of them are utterly clueless as to how any mod might effect a bike.


Affect.


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PostPosted: 19:54 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

General rule is declare all visible and obvious mods only I would say.

I would always mention stuff like extra electrical gear such as lighting, radio's and heated grips or accessory sockets though. Anything that has the potential to be a fire risk or damage the rest of the bikes wiring if installed incorrectly.


Oh and if you think modified bike insurance is fun and games, try getting car insurance for something with an A4 page of changes and non- standard parts. It'll make you feel lucky and relieved to be insuring a bike!
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me discussing every insurance policy I have ever taken out....

https://i.imgur.com/e69wDWw.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Me discussing every insurance policy I have ever taken out....

https://i.imgur.com/e69wDWw.jpg


Pretty much how I see it too
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was silly stuff as mentioned (stickers, lights, luggage, screen etc.) then yeah, I wouldn't bother.

But, it's not.

It's stuff that could be construed to affect the structure of the bike and I've seen reports of 'certain' forces impounding bikes for lack of insurance due to undeclared mods. Plus there's the whole hassle of the ins. co. cancelling a policy due to non-disclosure if they 'find out'.

Seeing as how with mods my last premium was well under 80 quid for the year, the cost/hassle/benefit analysis just didn't work in favour of "yeah mate, as it left the factory innit".
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdg wrote:
I've seen reports of 'certain' forces impounding bikes for lack of insurance due to undeclared mods.

Do these apocryphal reports all feature sociopathically loud exhausts, by any chance?

It's not the cost (well, it is the cost) but the hassle. If the cartel would agree a standard list of mods and comparison sites would list them then I'd have no problem declaring my top box, increased lightpower and invalid blanket. As it is, I'm not going to spend ten seconds more communicating with insurers than absolutely necessary in order to get a guaranteed reaming up front versus a tiny chance of one later.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should my premium be increased because I have fitted braided brake lines?

If it was a turbo charger with 100000hp then totally slap £££ on my policy, but getting screwed over because i want improved braking they can get to fuck.

cheeky fuckers.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Braided brake lines?

Well, I have them on the car and the bike - did actually discuss this with ins. co. a few years back and they said "it's a service replacement". Exactly the same answer was given when discussing exhausts - unless 'race pipe' it's not classed as a 'mod' as such.

I'll go along with that.

Thing is, almost all the vehicles I've ever had have been at least slightly modified in one way or another and I've not had trouble getting reasonably priced insurance - once I've found a company willing to cover of course...

I've even had an agent tell me their underwriters class modified machines as a lower risk than stock ones.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

My Bandit with a load of mods declared is insured through H&R insurance.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:26 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

My Bandit with a load of mods declared is insured through H&R insurance.

All the best

Katy


Cool story sis.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 21 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

My Bandit with a load of mods declared is insured through H&R insurance.

All the best

Katy


Cheers, another one on the list to try.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 22 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
My Bandit with a load of mods

Check my grammar, is that phrase tautological or merely redundant?
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 22 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Check my grammar, is that phrase tautological or merely redundant?


Not sure. It is modded (increasing the power a fair bit), but not all Bandits are. And not that long ago we had a fairly standard 600 Bandit as well

All the best

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