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kaseiozz
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Kawasaki ER6F 2014 as a first bike. Any thoughts? Reply with quote

Considering buying 2014 ER6F as my 1st ever bike. Only passed my mod2 couple of weeks ago, and I was wandering if anyone has any thoughts on this being my 1st ever bike.

I'm 30 years old and been driving last 12 years. Would like to think that I'm pretty reasonable, never got done for speeding or anything else for that matter Smile

What do you guys think?
Yey, ney?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good plan to me. Plenty quick enough, not powerful enough to punish you for hamfisted throttle useage. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a perfectly reasonable first bike. The main thing is, when you look at it do you love it, when you sit on it do you not want to get off? If so, buy it. If not, have a look at others until you do find one that makes your heart sing.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamt wrote:
It's a perfectly reasonable first bike. The main thing is, when you look at it do you love it, when you sit on it do you not want to get off? If so, buy it. If not, have a look at others until you do find one that makes your heart sing.


Was looking at Suzuki GSR750 and Triumph street triple r but decent ones are a bit outside of my budget to be frank.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My instructor had one, it's now in the training fleet.

I was looking at them as my first bike after 125cc but they were outside my price range at the time so ended up with a ZZR which is a little more full on in comparison.

Good easy to ride bike that you'll be able to develop skill on, good all rounder to either keep long term or swap when you know what you want to replace it with.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfectly reasonable choice. It'll do just about everything well and will give you a good yardstick to compare against possible future bikes. Do you want revvier or torquier, more leany-forwards or more sitty-up: an ER6f will be a good bike on which to find out.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 23 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your first big bike is a learning tool for the first year. You stand a fair chance of it falling over whilst your moving it around parking or engine off moving it around the garage etc. You'll decide if it's he type of bike you will use or would a dual sport or sports bike be better etc
So yes it's a fair first bike but you'd probably be just as wise to buy something older and cheaper knowing you'll change it in the future.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Light, easy to handle, reasonable power.

A perfectly good choice for your first big bike.

You might find it boring after a while but that is the nature of motorcycles. You always want something better/different.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamt wrote:
The main thing is, when you look at it do you love it, when you sit on it do you not want to get off? If so, buy it. If not, have a look at others until you do find one that makes your heart sing.

I agree, a bike should make you feel excited, and I'd say with the odd exception most do.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Light

20kg heavier than the MT-07. Less power, less torques, not any cheaper. Yamaha really have kicked everyone else squa' in the nuts.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Anything over 200kg that isn't a litre bike is heavy IMO.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
not any cheaper.


Actually going tomorrow to have a look at one Er6f up for sale by local Triumph dealer. It's 2014 10k miles on the clock and they're selling it for £3499. Decent MT-07 looks like £1k more by looks of it.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news!!!

I've been testing your website and have found various problems. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaseiozz wrote:
It's 2014 10k miles on the clock and they're selling
it for £3499. Decent MT-07 looks like £1k more by looks of it.

Fair enough. It should be cheaper though: Yamaha have destroyed them in new registrations since the MT-07 came out and Kawasaki are having a laugh by trying to sell their bikes at the same price.

I am also your web site looking at, is mostly every other freelancer website the same as.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of them have flood controls. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

And many of them follow the advice about how studies shown that you have 30 seconds or less to impress a visitor or else he’ll leave. You certainly wouldn’t want to lose a visitor to a competitor that’s why you need an experienced ecommerce web designer to patch structural flaws and improve the overall user experience.

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PostPosted: 22:08 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is same as every other webdesignersite but with this week colourscheme, why is not stand out from cloud?
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit off topic Smile Not designed to generate the profit, more of a portfolio site but thanks for the feedback.

Coming back to the bikes, really not a fan of MT-03 design and if I wanted a lightweight motorbike I'd probably go for Ducati monster.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Light

20kg heavier than the MT-07. Less power, less torques, not any cheaper. Yamaha really have kicked everyone else squa' in the nuts.


I'm going on the fact my Missus finds hers a nice light bike, not its actual curb weight if that makes sense.
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Fair enough. It should be cheaper though: Yamaha have destroyed them in new registrations since the MT-07 came out and Kawasaki are having a laugh by trying to sell their bikes at the same price.


Do dealers tend to let them go for much less in practise? That said, I've also seen a dealer advertising MT 07s for about £500 off rrp.

Not ridden either but should be getting a go on an er6 in a few weeks when I finally start big boy license training.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaseiozz wrote:
Not designed to generate the profit

Perhaps make it better so it does generate profit and then you won't be wanting to start a business or vlogging. Thumbs Up

Oh and the lack of flood controls is only one of the problems I found with your site. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weight is not the be all and end all. I find an R1 a pain to push about, can't paddle easily and the low bars are annoying. The 535 was a similar weight to the R1 and dead easy to push around because light weight and low centre of gravity. The recovery guy had a paddy about the weith of the 535 untill I too the panniers off, then he decided it was light, the difference? about 5kg and him being able to lean over to push by standing where the panniers were. Current Bandit is a seriously fat bitch, but can be paddled and pushed around easily as bars are at a sensible height, and is probably the nicest bike I have ridden at 5mph in traffic. Agile enough to filter properly yet very easy to ride slowly.

ER6f is a reasonably sensible choice. Not extremely low or high, a little heavy but not stupidly so. Should be easy enough to both push about and crawl through busy traffic on. 70is bhp is plenty as a first bike.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
Current Bandit is a seriously fat bitch, but can be paddled and pushed around easily as bars are at a sensible height, and is probably the nicest bike I have ridden at 5mph in traffic. Agile enough to filter properly yet very easy to ride slowly.

Really? I did my test on a Bandit and hated it at low speeds (mod 1 exercises and around town). Quite nice on the twisties and motorway but I wouldn't have one if I lived anywhere near a city.

I do agree with your general point that some bikes feel heavier than others, but when they're around the same weight. A 220-240kg bike will be harder to push around than one that weighs around 190kg.
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need some clutch control and plenty of revs, you can't just let the clutch out at idle and expect not to stall. But it stays upright, is really smooth, turns fast enough for tight spaces. Clutch is light and progressive. Mirrors on the 'S' show plenty. Did you in fact just hate riding in town or was the riding school bandit shagged?

There are undoubtedly better city bikes, I'd be looking for a twin or single with more low down torque, shorter and lighter. Perhaps an MT03 or DR of some description. But not an R1, R6 or VFR. Similarly the fzs600 I tried was lighter and quicker, but not as smooth or as easy to balance in traffic.

I'm not recommending the bandit as the ultimate bike. It just carries its weight well. There's a reason why training schools like them, and the er6 for that matter. Usually the naked version as less to smash.
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 27 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
I'm not recommending the bandit as the ultimate bike. It just carries its weight well.


They seem to carry their weight low down compared to a lot of other bikes, the 1200 is the same. It makes them easy at low speeds, helped by the wide bars.

As said, kerb weight is not a great indication of how "heavy" a bike feels.
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