Help, bought a crash damaged bike but turned out to be CAT B

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Long story short, spotted a crash damaged xt125x for £225. Was assured engine was OK when crashed just not started since. Engine was free so i assumed it just needed a good clean through as it had been stood for 10 months..Only needed a front end and when asked we were assured it was unrecorded.

So as my sister was awaiting the v5 I went about removing the subframe to gain access to the carb. Then she received a letter from dvla that the bike is a cat b and should not have been sold on ( I'm fully aware of cat a-b and have repaired a few cat c so I know the score). By this point I stopped any work on the bike and contacted seller. They offered full refund on return of the bike.. All good so far, only the bike seized while standing for 2 weeks! I told the seller this but nothing was said about the matter.

Now on returning the bike they paid us £100 back and said the would bank transfer the rest when they had checked the bike over, fair enough I thought.

Now the scrote is refusing the pay the rest £125 due to bike in pieces and seized engine.. I originally offered £50 for the bike as spares upon finding it was cat b so that I would not have to take the bike back on a 60mile trip to the seller. He wanted £100. Wasn't worth it to us so we agreed to return the bike. So he's got his bike back and our £125!!

Opinions? I didn't touch the engine. Admittedly it was free when we bought it but it siezedmwhile left. There was rust on the intake valve when unremoved the carb so water must have gotten into the engine? Airbox was not attached to carb so... And was I supposed to put it all back together?? It was only the tail...

Some people!!!!
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Hahadumball · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2015 Karma :

well you fucked up allowing him to take it back without full payment...

just give him the money take the bike back and put it on the road stop dicking around.

failing that move on you wont be getting any money
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Fin: no matter how much I look at It I can't understand what was going through my head, all I remember is going about 80 and redlining it to stop it seizing.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Get it out of him with menaces, via a small claim, or chalk it up to experience. Seller sounds like a pikey, it's a pikey bike, emptor needed some more caveating. Sorry, I don't know what else you expected to hear with the information that you've provided.

If you'd asked earlier, I'd have suggesting firing in with a complaint to the DVLA asking on what legal basis (statute or regulation) they're refusing to record the change of keeper or to supply a V5C and therefore denying you peaceful enjoyment of your possession.
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Hahadumball · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2015 Karma :

i bought a cat b
i filled in old v5
it was sent off
few days later i received new v5 in my name

sometimes life makes you deal with cabbages.
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Fin: no matter how much I look at It I can't understand what was going through my head, all I remember is going about 80 and redlining it to stop it seizing.
360 Deg... Five 1/4 turns. :- Teflon-Mike 18 Jan 2015

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Hahadumball · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2015 Karma :

I got insured, i phoned 4 companies they all said its fine.
Dvla said theres no problem.

some insurers aren't told by dvla that a vehicle is a write off.

You don't have to destroy anything, you could have a bike that was run over by a tank, aslong as its rideable and would pass an mot theres fuck all doovla can do to stop you having the v5.
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Fin: no matter how much I look at It I can't understand what was going through my head, all I remember is going about 80 and redlining it to stop it seizing.
360 Deg... Five 1/4 turns. :- Teflon-Mike 18 Jan 2015

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Would have done what people above have said. Kept it and got v5 regardless. DVLA are fucking idiots.

Stalk · Brolly Dolly Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Karma :

This again

Read on.

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element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Stalk · Brolly Dolly Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Karma :

Arse about the v5s

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Hahadumball · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2015 Karma :

Started on my birthday Very Happy

Sneaky fuckers! So this means no more buying cat bs then!
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Fin: no matter how much I look at It I can't understand what was going through my head, all I remember is going about 80 and redlining it to stop it seizing.
360 Deg... Five 1/4 turns. :- Teflon-Mike 18 Jan 2015

arry · Super Spammer Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Karma :

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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/1657/made

Well, well, well.

Well.
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

They love to write it in such old ways. Simply putting we ain't giving out v5s to cat b and a mate would suffice.

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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Suitable for repair and cost-effective to repair are not the same thing. Many many people spend more on fixing up their vehicle than it's actually worth, quite often it's worth less after all the money is spent.
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arry · Super Spammer Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Karma :

In the non Tef version I didn't spot any provision for a total loss settlement to have actually been paid - just that the insurer deems it not suitable for repair.

What if the insurer just decides upon inspection and the claim is withdrawn?

Shaft · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Karma :

arry · Super Spammer Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Karma :

I did think that also. Now that could get a bit hairy depending on how far they take their new imposed duties

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

I can't see any requirement to "inspect", just to "determine".

Pragmatically, the cartel's goon only has one consideration: maximising their master's profit. They're not, to the best of my knowledge, independently accredited or subject to regulation, so they have no incentive to make a public-safety based categorisation.

Owners may pay to retain ownership of a C or D vehicle. If it seems like they won't, then A or B will now ensure that the cartel won't pay out on the same vehicle twice.

tl;dr version is that it is now worth giving a fuck if a used vehicle has been written off.

I'd just like a convenient, cost free way of doing it. Because pikeys will demonstrably pike.
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