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PostPosted: 19:16 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Cost of building a garage Reply with quote

The missus and I are looking to buy a house my one stipulation was that it has a decent garage, so she tells me she has seen a place and loves it, guess how big the garage is... Rolling Eyes

So any idea how much it would cost for a reasonable brick built garage? Also if I would need any kind of planning permission?
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never let women get involved in picking somewhere to live. They care about unimportant things like the colour of the walls and general appearances.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need more info - attached to house or free standing?
If attached to the house it really wants doing to 'house' standards with full insulation.
You could easily spend £20,000 or more to make a good job, but it will increase the value of the house by a similar amount
Something basic more like £5,000 - going too cheap could have a negative impact on the property value
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

^This.

Whilst I can't tell you how much it will cost, the difference between a good garage and a crap one is definitely noticeable.

My previous house had a concrete prefab garage with an asbestos roof. It was draughty, plants came through the gaps in the corrugated asbestos sheet and it had terrible condensation. By comparison, my current house had a garage built attached to the house. The difference is amazing. Once the heating is going in there, it's nice and warm, lovely and dry, no condensation problems and the appeal of having a door from your house to your garage is definitely worth it Smile
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Concrete Panel jobby cost me £4500 to pour and erect.
Cement Sheet roof and up and over door.

I got my garage from these folk. Very smooth transaction.

https://www.nucrete.co.uk/products/elite-concrete-garages/?phpMyAdmin=6mKzvSPmbJoxFKht%2C9UiYr7hL51

I had to pour the base £500 concrete and shuttering inc. wheel barra, shovel, spade, rake, wellies.

I have just dry-walled the hoowur using Gyproc with 15mm polystyrene insulation on the back.

My lights were 4 x 4' flour. strips. I upgraded the lights with the drywall to some LED and posh light and power fitting. about £120

I poured a cementeous self leveler on last year to correct the imperfect floor (so my bike turner would move easier.) Material cost £330

The panels are roughcast and the fascia matches my house facing.

There was no option for a tile roof at the time but a tile roof is more substantial and prettier.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proper job on a block built double garage with rubberised flat roofing system and high quality roller shutter across the whole entrance, removing the old pre-fab concrete garage / asbestos sheeting, extending the base etc - £18k approximately.

I have to say that is with everything being quality fittings - very solid roof timbers, top notch roller, wood double glazed window and glazed exit door with 5LMD, all walls rendered and painted, floor painted, strip lights fitted, loads of electrical sockets etc - so it's expensive for a reason. We did have a quote of circa £5k less with a builder we didn't trust, so didn't proceed with. You could do it a whole lot cheaper with cheaper quality bits and less finesse in the overall appearance.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

A large decent quality shed would do as well and cost a fraction. Mines in my back garden. 8 x 12 ft at the
apex about 8ft tall inside. It came in 7 large pieces and the two lads that delivered it had it put up, glazed
and felted in an hour and a half. I already had a large raised concrete pad and bought the largest shed I
could fit on it. Mine was 600 quid delivered and fitted.

Just given it a coat of Ronseal fencelife and it looks better now 18 months after purchase than it did new.
The rain water just runs off of it. Thumbs Up but I will still be adding some guttering after I return from my hols
just to help keep the sides dryer this year through winter and channel the water somewhere it can drain away
without causing harm, I'm also going to build some steps up into the shed, I have some spare slabs and
bricks etc so it shouldn't cost much. I've already added external floodlighting, and a structurally built
in bench and lots of storage, plus flourescent lighting, heating (an old warm air curtain from a shop I refitted
years ago), plus I've upgraded the supplied 4mm float to 7mm wire reinforced cast georgian glass and beefed
up the frames a bit on the inside. I love pimping my shed. I'm always doing stuff to it. Still on the cards is
insulation, ply lining it, and installing proper hard wired electrics. But so far my total spend is under £800.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need any timber joists, I'll have a huge big pile of fully seasoned ones in a few weeks.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
A large decent quality shed would do as well and cost a fraction. Mines in my back garden. 8 x 12 ft at the
apex about 8ft tall inside. It came in 7 large pieces and the two lads that delivered it had it put up, glazed
and felted in an hour and a half. I already had a large raised concrete pad and bought the largest shed I
could fit on it. Mine was 600 quid delivered and fitted.

Just given it a coat of Ronseal fencelife and it looks better now 18 months after purchase than it did new.
The rain water just runs off of it. Thumbs Up but I will still be adding some guttering after I return from my hols
just to help keep the sides dryer this year through winter and channel the water somewhere it can drain away
without causing harm, I'm also going to build some steps up into the shed, I have some spare slabs and
bricks etc so it shouldn't cost much. I've already added external floodlighting, and a structurally built
in bench and lots of storage, plus flourescent lighting, heating (an old warm air curtain from a shop I refitted
years ago), plus I've upgraded the supplied 4mm float to 7mm wire reinforced cast georgian glass and beefed
up the frames a bit on the inside. I love pimping my shed. I'm always doing stuff to it. Still on the cards is
insulation, ply lining it, and installing proper hard wired electrics. But so far my total spend is under £800.


I think this is probably the way I'm going to go at my new gaff, as it doesn't have a garage, and was wondering what the cost of supply and install would be, so cheers for that Thumbs Up

Now, how much to have the concrete base laid, anyone?
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have someone in to do it it will be most of £1000 for a couple of days including materials
Here a mini-mix wagon with 2 cubic metres is about £200
That might just about be enough for a small base.
A bit of hardcore and damp membrane underneath is peanuts really, and a sheet of re-enforced mesh would be advisable and you could use a bit less concrete.

Depends what you find when you start digging really.
There is usually something unexpected.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
If you have someone in to do it it will be most of £1000 for a couple of days including materials
Here a mini-mix wagon with 2 cubic metres is about £200
That might just about be enough for a small base.
A bit of hardcore and damp membrane underneath is peanuts really, and a sheet of re-enforced mesh would be advisable and you could use a bit less concrete.

Depends what you find when you start digging really.
There is usually something unexpected.


So apart from the unexpected, how difficult is this for someone of zero experience to do?
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for pimping sheds being fun! But you show me your's and I'll show you mine. It's a 14x8, but I made the mistake of having a std height roof, so 5ft at back and 6ft at the front. It's going to be fun re-building a KMX200 permanently stooping down, but I'll make do now.
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PostPosted: 04:31 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me and my dad have built quite a few shed on our land now from scratch. It's not too difficult really, takes a while when you have a perfectionist old man though who insists everything has to be square withing 2-3mm over a 6000mm dimension.....

A good shed made with strong tannelised timber should last years. The shed my dad built in the mid-80s is still solid as a rock, despite being totally neglected and the door left open for 15 years. We put a new fibre roof on a few years ago and that is all it has had in 30 years.

My dad did massively over-engineer it though and build the frame out of 3x4s.

"Bought" sheds are immensely shit I find though. We build ours to a pretty good spec, with meaty timber frames, good quality shiplap and an abundance of damp-proof membrane.

I assume you'd be getting one built rather than building it yourself though? We've had a fair bit of practice, and my grandad was a builder so my dad did a bit as a kid, but apart from that neither of us have any sort of proper training, its not that hard tbh.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
My Concrete Panel jobby cost me £4500 to pour and erect.
Cement Sheet roof and up and over door.

I got my garage from these folk. Very smooth transaction.

https://www.nucrete.co.uk/products/elite-concrete-garages/?phpMyAdmin=6mKzvSPmbJoxFKht%2C9UiYr7hL51

I had to pour the base £500 concrete and shuttering inc. wheel barra, shovel, spade, rake, wellies.

I have just dry-walled the hoowur using Gyproc with 15mm polystyrene insulation on the back.

My lights were 4 x 4' flour. strips. I upgraded the lights with the drywall to some LED and posh light and power fitting. about £120

I poured a cementeous self leveler on last year to correct the imperfect floor (so my bike turner would move easier.) Material cost £330

The panels are roughcast and the fascia matches my house facing.

There was no option for a tile roof at the time but a tile roof is more substantial and prettier.


What size was it?
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right went to see the house and it is lovely, I told her to put an offer in. to me it is £25k+ undervalued. Put it this way my missus 1 bed maisonette on the same estate sold for more than double this and it is a 4 & 1/2 bed, that has just had all the insides redone.

Now I need to see about a Garage, there is room although the garden is a shitty shape for it.

I've budgeted £12k to get something decent and a driveway done.

Thanks for the offer Pete, trouble is I think we would be looking at the new year for this as it's only half likely we'll be in by xmas, if they are still around by then then yeah.

I have a mate who is an architect so he could plan it. I just wondered how feasible it is for someone with little building experience to put up a brick/block built structure.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I just wondered how feasible it is for someone with little building experience to put up a brick/block built structure.

BodyGuard will probably do it for £5 and use of a flushing toilet. Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offer accepted, fucking hell I just bought a house...
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do it all the time, you quickly tire of it. Congrats anyway!!
But remember, it's not yours or indeed bought until exchange and completion. Many hurdles between
getting there and where you are now and by far this is the worst part of buying a place. My advice, don't
get attached until it's a done deal, signed and sealed. I've had property deals go tits up with less than a
week to go until exchange, chase everybody involved often, prefeably daily. Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that.

Back to the garage.
Tried a Bricky?

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PostPosted: 10:57 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seriously spent more time considering buying a bike than I did this place.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

At what point does the absolute terror I'm feeling usually dissipate?
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
At what point does the absolute terror I'm feeling usually dissipate?


What are you terrified about? I can't wait to get moving - been told about 4-5 weeks now Very Happy

The property I'm looking at needs a replacement fence and wider gate for better access for the bike - although the current one is workable for the time being. So I also need to put in a concrete base and 'lead-in' driveway or paving (front drive is tarmac and in excellent condition).

chris-red wrote:
I just wondered how feasible it is for someone with little building experience to put up a brick/block built structure.


No way I'm going to tackle building a solid structure garage myself, so I'll just look for the best quality wooden shed/workshop I can find, then maybe look to make improvements as others here have done. Can anyone recommend anyone to go to for shed and installation in Cumbria?

A very timely thread, this Smile
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an easy process made difficult by those who will profit from it. You'll probably at some point during the
process wish you'd never bothered, but you just have to stick your chin out and press on. I've just sold one to a first
time buyer with no chain and finance in place. It still took 3 months.

Avoid Looooooong chains if you can, too many variables. A single fuckup anywhere up or down the chain can cause
the whole deal to collapse and you won't even see it coming. I'm not trying to alarm you, just make you aware
that now the 'ball' is in the hands of others expect it to get dropped often and even occasionally lost but usually
if everyone keeps their nerve and nobody pulls out then it gets there in the end.
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grr666 wrote:
It's an easy process made difficult by those who will profit from it. You'll probably at some point during the
process wish you'd never bothered, but you just have to stick your chin out and press on. I've just sold one to a first
time buyer with no chain and finance in place. It still took 3 months.

Avoid Looooooong chains if you can, too many variables. A single fuckup anywhere up or down the chain can cause
the whole deal to collapse and you won't even see it coming. I'm not trying to alarm you, just make you aware
that now the 'ball' is in the hands of others expect it to get dropped often and even occasionally lost but usually
if everyone keeps their nerve and nobody pulls out then it gets there in the end.


The vendors of the property I'm buying suggested they might be able to move in with their parents to speed up the process. This meant no chain to worry about for me (I'm a cash buyer), and will mean they will be cash buyers for their new place when they find one, so advantage all round. I gave them a little extra financial incentive to ensure they did move out to parents - I had knocked the price down a bit so lost nothing really in doing this. For the simplification of the process, I felt it was worthwhile.

My solicitor is making all the right noises about chasing their searches etc, and I plan to phone them at least once a week to see how things are going. No problems so far Praying
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
It's an easy process made difficult by those who will profit from it. You'll probably at some point during the
process wish you'd never bothered, but you just have to stick your chin out and press on. I've just sold one to a first
time buyer with no chain and finance in place. It still took 3 months.

Avoid Looooooong chains if you can, too many variables. A single fuckup anywhere up or down the chain can cause
the whole deal to collapse and you won't even see it coming. I'm not trying to alarm you, just make you aware
that now the 'ball' is in the hands of others expect it to get dropped often and even occasionally lost but usually
if everyone keeps their nerve and nobody pulls out then it gets there in the end.


Ours is us and 2 others, a first time buyer buying my missus place and the house we are buying was rented.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Put it this way my missus 1 bed maisonette on the same estate sold for more than double this and it is a 4 & 1/2 bed, that has just had all the insides redone.

Eh wha? Was this one-bed maisonette plumbed into the Dom Perignon mains or made out of unicorn bones or something?

(FWIW I bought my first house over the phone from a stairwell in Rotterdam - the adrenaline wore off after an hour or so and it was 7 months before I moved in)
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