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Samsbike
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Quickshifters - what exactly do they do and how to use Reply with quote

So I am back in the dark ages with clutches etc.

New bike is coming with a quickshifter and I am too embarrassed to ask how to use them, why have them etc


Please enlighten me
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quickshifter cripples the ignition when you shift gears, so you do not have to shut the throttle to relieve the stress on the gears. Thumbs Up

Just ride and when you want to shift up, don't shut the throttle, don't touch the clutch lever, just shift the gear up.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, so it really only for track you to blast your way around, (note that my idea of blasting is a potter around the block!)
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

what bike is it on?
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

See this: https://youtu.be/Sq_k-n9D_Q8?t=29s Thumbs Up
OR this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3mZmGoUx2E Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsbike wrote:
Thanks for that, so it really only for track you to blast your way around, (note that my idea of blasting is a potter around the block!)


The triumph one works better at higher revs.

Not necessarily just for the track, but not designed for a slow shift from first to second in traffic!
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsbike wrote:
Thanks for that, so it really only for track you to blast your way around, (note that my idea of blasting is a potter around the block!)


It's more for drag racing so you can just hold the throttle wide open while kicking through the gears. For road use it's just a bit of bling.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfectly useable on the road but as said better up higher in the Rev range for a silkier shift, after you've used it you won't want to go back
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfectly useable on the road but as said better up higher in the Rev range for a silkier shift, after you've used it you won't want to go back
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am thinking of rigging one on the Badger.
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As suggested above, and you will need a power commander on your bike, well at least my one goes through my powercommander anyway.

Fitting mine this weekend actually, if you want, I can do a write up on the installation for you.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I am thinking of rigging one on the Badger.

How's that gong to work then? Will it extinguish the pilot light, or will you set it up like a decompresser to stop the tube being pushed in the pot? Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can still put a shifter on a bike without an ECU or Power Commander, although it's a much more simple "plug and play" fitting with the PC. Just need some way of interrupting the ignition. Holeshot Racing make an ignition kill box that can be used on most bikes (except maybe a Badger Very Happy ).
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only ridden one bike with a quickshifter. It was an opportune "want a go on this?" moment at a rideout last year - the bike was a Ducati 899 Panigale.

At the time I didn't get any briefing, just "fancy a go?" (I think I may have been in the saddle with the engine running before he finished the question). Anyway, as I am riding it I start thinking - this is the sort of bike that probably has a quickshifter. I bet it does. Let's see.......

And with the throttle kept open and a stroke of the left foot I was greeted with the most perfect upshift. And that is ALL the familiarisation I needed - after that it was the most natural thing in the world, as if I had always ridden with one. Any and all upshifts - hard on the power or just bimbling along. It was so compelling I considered working out how I might fit one on the Thundercat, but gave it up as an expensive, bodged-up idea that would never replicate the experience I had just had.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm ones are great and just plug and play into the ignition coils
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only works on the upshift I presume?
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Only works on the upshift I presume?


Most do, and some work even for the downshift, but you have got to shut the throttle, obviously. Check youbook, some quickshifter units even can blip the throttle during the downshift, if you run electrically operated throttle. Wink

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyvj4TbNoKI Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers especially offering the option of the write up. It's already fitted to the bike, however it's a bit wasted upon me as I really only commute.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Ariel Badger wrote:
I am thinking of rigging one on the Badger.

How's that gong to work then? Will it extinguish the pilot light, or will you set it up like a decompresser to stop the tube being pushed in the pot? Laughing


Sarcasm asside... it would operate my mag kill switch as the clutch goes in. It will need an over ride for holding the clutch in pre launch and I would need to operate a switch between first to second gear to engage it.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

weasley wrote:
I have only ridden one bike with a quickshifter. It was an opportune "want a go on this?" moment at a rideout last year - the bike was a Ducati 899 Panigale.

At the time I didn't get any briefing, just "fancy a go?" (I think I may have been in the saddle with the engine running before he finished the question). Anyway, as I am riding it I start thinking - this is the sort of bike that probably has a quickshifter. I bet it does. Let's see.......

And with the throttle kept open and a stroke of the left foot I was greeted with the most perfect upshift. And that is ALL the familiarisation I needed - after that it was the most natural thing in the world, as if I had always ridden with one. Any and all upshifts - hard on the power or just bimbling along. It was so compelling I considered working out how I might fit one on the Thundercat, but gave it up as an expensive, bodged-up idea that would never replicate the experience I had just had.


Aftermarket quickshifters are far superior to OEM's.

The one that comes on the S1000RR for instance is dogshit, it can and will damage the gearbox with failed shifts and cause weird ignition problems.

HM do various quickshifter that run from £250 to £700. the one at £250 is a basic shifter, the £750 one gives you all sorts of data logging and can provide a seamless shift MotoGP type of gearshift.

I fitted a Translogic quickshifter to my R1, It does say it can simulate seamless shift on the box and yes it is rapid fire up the gearbox if i want it to but it is not as good as the HM.
Still awesome fun be it on track or on the road
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PostPosted: 03:30 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Sarcasm asside...

Wasn't sarcastic, it was parody; a nod to how old the Badger is in that its almost old enough to have a hot-tube ignition, but also tribute to your devoted shedology, in that you could probably actually engineer a contraption to emulate a 'quick-shift' on such a mechanical ignition system!!
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