Fill ma surfvey? (Illiterate University Students.)

[G]

We came very low on a list of 28 countries I think it was on literacy standards; in this case for University Students.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=university+literacy+uk+28+oecd&tbm=nws

I blame the bankers for restricting social mobility!.. no wonder they end up working in McDonalds!

[Rogerborg]

3.4% of graduates are functionally illiterate?

3.4% of graduates.

3.4% of graduates.

What are universities doing taking them on, and more the point, awarding them any degree other than "I'm Special For Participating!"
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[mentalboy]

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Itchy]

[Rogerborg]

[Rob Fzs]

As Itchy says, they take in any old dumb entitled fuck nowadays, and we should pay for them to doss about as well, because education is a right and not a privilege, innit
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[Lord Percy]

Before I shifted over to Leeds, my uni before that was Queen Mary in London.

One requirement was an A grade or better in A-level maths. So that's what I got.

One lad I made friends with was allowed onto the course through clearing with a C grade for maths. And another lad on the course, who had entered by doing the foundation year beforehand, would always come asking me for help, telling me he had discalculia so had trouble with numbers. This is for a physics degree, which is arguably the closest you can do to a maths degree without actually doing a maths degree.

So the uni were clearly letting anyone in as it was just bums (£££) on seats for them. It lowered the quality of the course as lectures were rammed full, and there were aresholes in there who acted like high school kids. It seems many students these days see university as a right, a next natural step in their educational timeline where they can just dick around for a few more years before taking on the real world. This is probably the one reason I'm most glad with my choice to be a mature student. I know if I'd have gone to uni straight from school I'd have wasted my time entirely, as is the case for most of the young students I see on campus around me every day!

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

[smegballs]

I lived with two mainland chinese guys in my 2nd year at uni. Around the house they barely spoke to me, and when they did it was in really bad english.

Admittedly they might have much better reading/writing than speaking/listening skills (I can read/write french pretty well but suck at speaking it for example), but I did wonder how the hell you were meant to do a degree in taught in a language you don't seem to be able to speak....

[Rogerborg]

[Lord Percy]

[Tracey Suntan-King]

I have one daughter at Uni and one due to go. It is very depressing that they are put under pressure to achieve certain grades as a condition for entry to Uni, when in fact, it is true that anyone can get in. I worry whether a BA Hons in English & Philosophy is actually going to ever get her a job other than in Burger King.

My niece, a titty blonde airhead whose stupidity had become a local legend, at 20, got an unconditional place to study Law at Birmingham Uni. FFS! Dropped out at end of year one as could not manage the course work*

Universities must be awash with money right now. They have nearly all put their fees up to £9k per year and they then fill,up all their specious course with people who can't cope and may well not finish.

Those that do finish are left owing and wondering how they are going to use their degree to actually earn a proper living.

* however, she did some work experience as part of year one and the employer offered her a full-time job with training to be a legal secretary. At 22 she's earning good money and driving her own brand new car.
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[Lord Percy]

[mentalboy]

[Lord Percy]

[smegballs]

I think some courses are definately money spinners, other maybe less so.

English/Psychology etc you just need a lecture hall (got plenty of those) and a lecturer and you can site back and charge 300 (that was about the intake size each year for english etc at plymouth IIRC) kids 9k a pop.

OTOH an engineering course (and there was maybe 20-30 kids on mine) you need to provide the lecture theatre but also mills, lathes, CNC machines, rapid prototyping machines, and all manner of expensive test/analysis equipment.

Even for my sisters dirty art degree they still had to provide loads of workshop space and loads of tooling for various art processes.

[Rogerborg]

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[Lord Percy]