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roozor
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: RS125, the new chav weapon of choice :( Reply with quote

Christ today i was out on my Goose 350cc feeling pretty good and confident, only had it a while! took my girlfriend for 1st go on the back, we were cruising about 65 cos shes scared still being pillion, then this ABSOLUTE chav on an rs125 starts coming up my rear, so close it was dangerous.

Then we got onto a straight, decided to let it out a bit and leave him, then i was so disappointed when he flew past me and gave me the finger ! i mean my goose 350 and his rs125, they both have same BHP, but i suppose the rs125 is lighter, and i also had my mrs on the back. Plus he has fairings, goose gets battered by the wind

Damn those 125 race reps Sad at that moment, i really wanted to sell my goose and get one Very Happy, but my goose is 4T reliability Smile

Any of you guys had some inccidents with cheaky damn learners Sad

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PostPosted: 00:44 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Depends on the bike, but carrying a pillion will easily knock 10~15mph off the top speed. For example on my RS125 I have managed a solo indicated 115mph and 97mph with a pillion.

Pretty hollow 'victory' for the RS if he needs to find people with pillions.

All the best

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PostPosted: 00:45 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, i rarely see chavs riding RS125's. I think a few have realised they are the quickest thing you can ride without having to prove your not a knobend by passing a test.

Either it wont catch on or there will be a big police crackdown on full power bikes, just like there is the occasional crackdown on no L plates on peds.

I find the hooligan element of bikers ditchs 2 wheels in favour or a nova and clubbing when the better weather leaves us
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

tell u what, i had a go on a mates rgv250 and he had a go on my (still bloody restricted) vfr400r and i could easyily overtake my bike the powerband was so peaky. but then when we both when 2 up (i was back on my bike) i could get up with him easyily enough and we were both nailing it. its surprising how much 2up diffrence is made on a 2stroke Shocked
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

skyline wrote:
its surprising how much 2up diffrence is made on a 2stroke Shocked


Depends on lots of things, including gearing. For example we had an early AF1 and a Cagiva Freccia years ago that both regularly got ridden 2 up. Solo the Cagiva was 10mph faster, yet with a pillion they both had the same top speed.

DaFrostyOne wrote:
Either it wont catch on or there will be a big police crackdown on full power bikes, just like there is the occasional crackdown on no L plates on peds.


Maybe, but people have been derestricting 125s for over 20 years now.

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PostPosted: 01:11 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chav's in hampshire are normally referred to as townies (less burberry, I think) and quite a few get RS50s, much more than get RS125s. (Note use of the word 'get' rather than 'buy,' I suppose 'obtain' would be more appropriate.)

They never wear leathers or even textile bike jackets, if they could get away with it they wouldn't even wear helmets.

Evil or Very Mad But what angers me most is the completey ignorant neglect that the bikes are put through; most get thrashed without warming up, and the engines often seize through failure to top up the 2T oil.

I think the bikes should be confiscated and given to riders that appreciate them.
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

One kid I went to school with has a full power (he passed his test) RS125, and he wears jeans/jacket/gloves/helmet/sturdyish boots, which is his choice, but he hangs around with the helmet over resting on the ears super cool stiggy ped crew :/
And he thinks that overtaking on the wrong side of traffic islands at 70 in a 30 is fun.... :/
And all his little ped friends dream of getting Aprillas for their "mad skeet speed innit bruv?"
I tend to disregard most Aprilla riders as townies, I have yet to see one ridden sensibly.
Not disrespecting those of you with Aprillas but around here they are all ridden by idiots, and ridden ridiculously unsafely. :/
Either way I try to avoid them, sure they feel big roaring (screeching) past me at 60+ in a 40- zone, but meh, I don't much care for them or how much they think they have "owned" me.
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PostPosted: 01:33 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not stereotyping rs125 riders as chavs, just saying ive seen a few, and all the do is ride along at 30mph all day then as soon as they see a "vitcim" usualy another biker, ped, old people driving, anything thats going slow, they allways overtake it even in 20 zone, and give the 2 finger salute Sad
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PostPosted: 01:35 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying not to stereotype them, but all the ones I have encountered locally are chavs.
And they don't wait for victims, they just "haul ass" through towns and villages in excess of 30mph over the limit :/
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, ones here in gillingham dorset, they wait for victims! and hardly speed at all , only when they overtaking the victim, they also hunt it packs!

Seriously all this is true, i haven't just copied it out of a book about animals
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PostPosted: 02:16 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, now I know what a 'chav' is.

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PostPosted: 02:21 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find out more about chavs here. Laughing Razz
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PostPosted: 02:51 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day, a chav who rides an RS125 is a chav - or is he?
He's a biker cos he rides with gears, and he took his CBT on a bike with gears.

So let me get this straight - he's a chav cos he hates bikes....
yet he took a CBT that enabled him to ride a geared bike, then bought that geared bike, and insured it, and then rides it.

Personally I think just although he used the capabilities of his bike and his confidence to pass you, he's still a chav, simply because he rides a popular race rep 125 - ie a "performance 2 stroke that's easy to get onto via a CBT"....

Oh my god, could it be that people want POWER after they pass their CBT?

You're just calling him a chav cos he's faster and more confident than you..... Rolling Eyes .

By the way - https://www.bikepics.com/members/nsrandy/00nsr125/ .

L plates or not, if you're a slow c*nt, he's still gonna pass you.
Rolling Eyes .

<edit> DaFrostyOne - I've been riding the NSR since January and have since seen no need to pass my test. Does that make me a "knobend?"

FFS this argument could go on for ever Rolling Eyes . Bloody passers (who would be made to show "P" plates in wales) think they're the king of the road after passing a tuppence-ha'penny 50 minute test Rolling Eyes .

I'm on the road, legally. Screw the test, I'll do it when I can be arsed. Until then I ride where I want how I want. Get used to it you stuck up B*stards.....

We all start somewhere, even if "somewhere" is too much balls and too little brain....

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PostPosted: 03:17 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

A chav is a chav, where does they're vehicle choice determine what they are?

There are plenty (well too many) chav's who ride scooter, who ride bikes, who drive cars, and all other modes of transport. Not all chav's use the same mode of transport, just like all non-chav's don't use the same mode of transport.

And, there is only one type of CBT it is not distinguish between geared and non-geared bikes. You can do your CBT on a 50cc twist and go, and then ride a geared 125 (as long as you're 17 Laughing). Fairly daft really as if you do your driving test in a geared vehicle you're not licensed to driver manual vehicles.
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PostPosted: 03:32 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
A chav is a chav, where does they're vehicle choice determine what they are?

There are plenty (well too many) chav's who ride scooter, who ride bikes, who drive cars, and all other modes of transport. Not all chav's use the same mode of transport, just like all non-chav's don't use the same mode of transport.

And, there is only one type of CBT it is not distinguish between geared and non-geared bikes. You can do your CBT on a 50cc twist and go, and then ride a geared 125 (as long as you're 17 Laughing). Fairly daft really as if you do your driving test in a geared vehicle you're not licensed to driver manual vehicles.


Are you sober ste?

As far as I was aware, you do your CBT on a scoot, or you do it on a Geared bike.

Chavs are chavs.
Or they are bikers.

Retard bikers maybe, but still bikers.
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PostPosted: 06:29 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do your cbt on either a geared 125 such as a CG or on a moped, but it doesn't matter which one you do you can still go off and ride geared bikes. I do agree with Andy in this thread though. Shocked

It seems like the word 'chav' is getting chucked around a little too often on this forum recently, every time someone overtakes you or annoys you, thats it, they must be chavs. Rolling Eyes

Most people who go out and buy 2t 125's are going to go out wanting to go fast and have fun, personally I did the same except I also went out and bought some leathers, me and Mike used to drag race off the lights, does that make us chavs? Then again, the answer is probably yes because we might've watched the fast & the furious. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 06:39 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously you do it on either a geared or non geared - but it doesnt affect what you can ride. I pulled the old CBT document out last night, and the only restrictions that can be listed on it are for if you passed the CBT with a sidecar attached, or a moped with more than 2 wheels. (so, essentially, if you are incapabe of riding a bike!)

There is a box at the bottom where it records what machine you took it on, but it quite clearly states next to it "For Information Only"
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over here, i think it's right to say that certain RS125 characters are Chavs.. They linger around with their boyfriend's or minors on gilera runners, who certainly are chavs according to the mark up sheet on chavscum.com and congregate around bus stops. However, this is only the few that i see. Most RS riders tend to be mature 20 year olds.

I have been offered an RS125 by a friend of mine who has gone through a few of them (i.e. due to model changes and not because the bike has blown apart). Do you reckon 1850 for a 2000W with Datatag & Alarm of yet unknown mileage with a recent piston job is good value? The rear tyre's on its limits... This also means i need to get proper riding gear then Crying or Very sad , more money for that 2 piece and boots.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very strange i would say that the goose even with two up should have maintained a very close level and not been overtook.
The goose i had was much quicker than any 125 i've ridden.

But that was due to torque.

Still i wouldnt worry to much about it, Would you really wanted to risk anything with your g/f on the back.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh wrote:
I'm trying not to stereotype them, but all the ones I have encountered locally are chavs.
And they don't wait for victims, they just "haul ass" through towns and villages in excess of 30mph over the limit :/


I'm not a chav........

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PostPosted: 13:37 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't bother allowing chavs to race me.

I stick to the "withering stare" method to discourage them.

The only time I go at speed is when (trying to keeping up) with bikers who ride faster than me, and they are invariably PROPER bikers, not chavs, anyway.

Over the years I've come to recognise "bikers who used to be chavs" fairly easily. I tend to steer clear of their company for the most part. I would only end up being "mildly scornful".
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, im not calling this guy a chav because he beat us, im calling him a chav because he was head to toe in burberry, bullys younger kids, and when he's not raging the streets he's drinking white lightning Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:

<edit> DaFrostyOne - I've been riding the NSR since January and have since seen no need to pass my test. Does that make me a "knobend?"


DaFrostyOne wrote:
Meh, i rarely see chavs riding RS125's. I think a few have realised they are the quickest thing you can ride without having to prove your not a knobend by passing a test.



In the eyes of the law, and the eyes of some you may be a nob end, passing a test proves that you have enough road sense to be safe and control a bike sufficiently.
the CBT is easy enough for chavs to pass
the full bike test is probably too hard for most chavs to pass.

Most RS riders are no different from NSR/TZR riders, however a few RS riders are chavs. The RS is kinda the chav/pedboi dream machine, so occasionally a pedboi/chav is able to afford/nick one.

Chav RS riders are basically ped bois on a geard ike, they normally want to show off to their mates and end up blowing the thing up pretty quickly.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree this chav word is getting awful confusing :/ i could say im a chav in some repects because i ride around on a vfr400r with a whole bunch of 50cc'rs still thinking im on me 50, although instead of crawling past cars i can now go past them slightly faster. come to think i do see alot more mature 20-30 year old riders riding round on the rs125's now because the rs125 is a good(ish) bike to ride on a cbt at 17. and lets be honest a chav is a chav which rides any bike. look at half the super bike riders, they do the same thing but alot faster and more dangerous!
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 16 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could call me a "chav" as I display a few of the well known symtoms (dance music, fascination of hot hatches, love racing everything and anything...) but I know a good lot who wear protective jackets gloves and helmet on thier 125s and scooters. It's silly to say chavs either drive novas or bikes. I hope to get both one day. Nowhere is it written "a spide/townie/scally/chav can't ride a motorcycle unless it's a 50cc automatic." I know a few who can put thier 125s through the paces well.
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