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I hope you all wear full faced helmets when cycling.  |
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Don't overestimate the ability of a plastic and polystyrene chin bar to protect you.
My helmet has a removable chin bar. It's TUV (and therefore euro) approved as both an open and full face helmet. The chin bar is just a relatively bendy bit of plastic. I wouldn't count on it to protect me from much more than wind and rain.
In the interests of starting a discussion, I would conter your post (since this is your second attempt to get a rise on the same subject) that the increased peripheral vision you gain from a well designed open face helmet increases your primary protection. ie, your ability to see and avoid an accident in the first place. You don't realise how restrictive of your vision full face lids are, especially the cheaper ones, until you've ridden with an open face or no helmet.
I would further suggest that you are far less likely to be travelling at high speeds, especially in the UK, while wearing an open face helmet. Because it gets bloody uncomfortable at anything much over 60mph.
I'd wear an open face all the time if it wasn't for the cold and wind blast. I'd certainly speed a whole lot less if I did so too.
EDIT: You can also eat a twix while riding. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Rog, what the fuck is that?
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IIRC Years ago (when I first joined the forum) Hetz was getting ripped into by everybody for drilling a small hole in the side of his lid for a headphone cable.
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| talkToTheHat wrote: | I like my full face lids. Becase [conflating open face with visorless] |
None of those are issues with a long visor.
| monkeybiker wrote: | Do people with open face helmets have less accidents? |
They probably have greater accidents but perhaps fewer. Interesting question, but:
1) You'd have to know not just the numbers involved in accidents, but the proportion of open to closed lids that are worn in the general riding population. It's not a simple question either: I switch between shortie open, long open, closed and flip front pretty much on a whim.
2) Consider selection bias. Open face + tracksuit / assless chaps does not speak to the same attitude as open face + armoured hi-vis. The former group may ride recklessly in a closed face, while I ride carefully, now, in an open.
I believe, possibly kidding myself, that there is an effect. You are more aware of being vulnerable in an open face, and it's an ongoing and tangible effect. Literally tangible, as you can feel the wind on your face.
This is in contrast to, for example <derail.jpg> hi-vis, which you're not aware of wearing. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 287 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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