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KnightsFall
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Europoean imports Reply with quote

Is there likely to be any issues with buying a new, unregistered European import version of a model sold in the UK? The seller claims that they are the same as UK spec and are set to display in Imperial. They do say that they have Euro flat beam headlights, however exactly that differs from UK versions. Registration is handled by them so there should be no extra faff in that respect. They have a few makes/models and prices are reduced quite considerably compared with UK RRP.

Worth considering or a can of worms? Likely to affect resell value much?
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a French Fazer which had been imported (and therefore clocks changed) a few hundred miles into its life. So the clocks didn't quite match the mileage. It was documented, but y'know, nagged a bit. As long as you're doing this "new" then your clocks will match the actual mileage.

I'd expect a buyer (private or dealer) to use it to try to get some money-off though. Everyone likes a bargain. "Money off" is the reason you're considering it, right?

My other concern would be the throw of the beam from the headlights.

Maybe national regs too. What are UK bikes supposed to have that may not be the case further east? ABS? Does this import have more or fewer features than the UK equivalent?
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why so coy? Let's see the advert.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Why so coy? Let's see the advert.


Not intending to be coy.

https://www.eastmidlandsuperbikes.co.uk/showroom.php

They have a number of different models, with variable savings. Possibly all of the 0 mileage bikes are the same story.

I believe they tend to charge a couple of hundred extra for OTR but some still work out as a substantial saving over RRP. They claim that warranty is good and manuals are in English but you do not get any standard breakdown cover that otherwise might be included.

Another dealer who is aware of their antics claims that they are from Holland. I do not know if this is accurate or how much difference it may make.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a 2002 Harley on there with 1828 miles ... One owner since new Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOT manual says: "Right hand dip headlights can be temporarily altered for use in the UK by fitting masks or converter kits which remove the beam “kick up” to the right. A headlamp altered in this way is not a reason for rejection [if it's a proper bodge job]". I'd want it fitted by the dealer with a written guarantee that it's UK compliant.

Warranty, well, maybe. Bikes are not cars. I'd verify that with whomever they tell you will be backing the warranty, and again I'd want it in writing as if you get mugged off by Yamazuki UK then you'll be claiming against the dealer.

If they're not prepared to put their promises in writing then they're not worth the paper that they're not written on.

An "imported" bike might be a bit more expensive to insure, if you feel honest enough to declare it as such.

Other than that, go for it. We've got a common market (for now), we might as well use it.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Re: Europoean imports Reply with quote

KnightsFall wrote:
Is there likely to be any issues with buying a new, unregistered European import version of a model sold in the UK? The seller claims that they are the same as UK spec and are set to display in Imperial. They do say that they have Euro flat beam headlights, however exactly that differs from UK versions. Registration is handled by them so there should be no extra faff in that respect. They have a few makes/models and prices are reduced quite considerably compared with UK RRP.

Worth considering or a can of worms? Likely to affect resell value much?


Flat beam headlights are compliant in LH and RH markets. Ideal for manufacturers....

Don't ask me the exact ins and outs of it, but I know it's pretty common now for new bikes to have a flat beam, my USA importer R1 has a flat beam, hence no problem on the MOT and no stupid stickers. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like a British-American type.

Dipped beam
https://www.motuk.co.uk/images/lights_diagram3.gif

Main beam:
https://www.motuk.co.uk/images/lights_diagram2.gif


What's a "European" flat beam though?

This is a European "E" beam.

https://www.motuk.co.uk/images/lights_diagram1.gif

Those are the only three shown in the MOT Manual.

Small issue though, as even if it's a Euro E beam, you can mask it off.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

KnightsFall wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Why so coy? Let's see the advert.


Not intending to be coy.

https://www.eastmidlandsuperbikes.co.uk/showroom.php

They have a number of different models, with variable savings. Possibly all of the 0 mileage bikes are the same story.

I believe they tend to charge a couple of hundred extra for OTR but some still work out as a substantial saving over RRP. They claim that warranty is good and manuals are in English but you do not get any standard breakdown cover that otherwise might be included.

Another dealer who is aware of their antics claims that they are from Holland. I do not know if this is accurate or how much difference it may make.



I bought a new Italian imported Cagiva mito from these years ago.
Bike had uk speedo and headlamps so no problems.
never had to use any warranty but they were easy to deal with and they personally delivered it to Glasgow for a reasonable fee.

I would not hesitate to consider buying a bike from them if its the same people as in 2001.

is the other dealer getting confused with the antics of Midland Superbikes ( which is no more , and East midland superbikes had to publicly announce no connection to due to the bad reputation of Midland superbikes )

I have no connection to East Midland superbikes , but have bought from them in the past as stated.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

SIG1981 wrote:

I bought a new Italian imported Cagiva mito from these years ago.
Bike had uk speedo and headlamps so no problems.
never had to use any warranty but they were easy to deal with and they personally delivered it to Glasgow for a reasonable fee.

I would not hesitate to consider buying a bike from them if its the same people as in 2001.

is the other dealer getting confused with the antics of Midland Superbikes ( which is no more , and East midland superbikes had to publicly announce no connection to due to the bad reputation of Midland superbikes )

I have no connection to East Midland superbikes , but have bought from them in the past as stated.


I cannot speak for their history but that sounds positive.

The other dealer is a Honda main dealer and they do not like being under cut by cheap imports, which is understandable. I believe that they claimed the headlights may go the wrong way and that the instruments may be metric but were otherwise not exactly unprofessional in their comments. It seems that EMS have refuted these two points at least. I'm going to at least see what the official Honda boys can do in the face of this competition.

I believe they claim that it is proper manufacturer's warranty but I will make sure that is clear before taking a chance on them.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 02 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

from memory most new Hondas are fitted with flat beam pattern lamps now so shouldn't be a problem.

warranty will probably be with Honda Europe and not Honda UK.
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