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BillyJ
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 06 Mar 2016    Post subject: Chinese brake rotors Reply with quote

Would you use Chinese brake rotors?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotors-Fit-SUZUKI-GSF-600-Bandit-2000-2004-SV-650-99-02-Golden-/231745075421?hash=item35f51538dd:g:ApIAAOSwYHxWPfEm

I think my bandit rotors are not completely flat.

I'm going to fully service/refurb all the calipers anyway but there is a small drag once every revolution of the front wheel making me think there is either corrosion under the rotor clamping face... Or a rotor isn't flat.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 06 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.

No. They will rust within a week and likely to warp or snap.

Buy replacement products from a breaker or buy new!

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PostPosted: 21:17 - 06 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragamuffin wrote:
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No. They will rust within a week and likely to warp or snap.

Buy replacement products from a breaker or buy new!

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T


Why do say that?
Have you had brake parts fail like that before?

I only ask because you haven't elaborated on the subject more than "no! Chinese equal like a 1 shit" Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 06 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had Chinese 125 and Chinese smartphones.

Chinese products are poor quality.

Them brake discs arnt even flat. There poking out from the wheel. How hard will you brake before them slopes bend and snap.
Would you trust them when your trying to stop on a pin from 140mph?

My advice, stay away from anything Chinese.
So many countifits.

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PostPosted: 21:30 - 06 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, so, which chinese 125? I've had a few, can't say I've had any real issues. However, I do agree, steer well clear of an iphone Wink

Serioulsy, I've owner various chinese motorbikes, from 125's upto the CF650TR. Not had any problems that have been worse than any of the japanese and british bikes I've had, and I ride my bikes in all weathers.

As to what you're looking at, I honestly couldn't tell you, as I haven't purchased those particular items, but based on my experience so far, I wouldn't be overly concerned.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 06 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a sky jet and a sym

They use inferior metals, paints, plastics, even there nuts and bolts fk up after one use.

Everything I've bought like rear lights, footpegs, brake/clutch levers, horn switch everything has failed after one down poor or even standing on the footrest and it snapping off.

Everything I buy now is oem or e marked.

My safety is not the Chinese concern.

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PostPosted: 22:47 - 06 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never used Chinese rotors. I know someone who has and so far hasn't had any problems but then I have heard of Chinese discs warping with very low mileages.

While I would happily fit some parts from China I don't think brake rotors would be one of them. However EBC ones are double that price so pays your money and takes your choice.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 06 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a pair on the front of my gsxr (I believe! I'll have to check they're not the real Armstrong ones with that pattern) and they seem great to me! I'll keep you informed over a few thousand miles though

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PostPosted: 08:55 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the discs off and sort out any corrosion on the wheel before you think about new discs.

If you do need new discs, there are often some fairly good British-made ones on ebay for reasonable money. Far cheaper than EBC.
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragamuffin wrote:
I've had a sky jet and a sym

They use inferior metals, paints, plastics, even there nuts and bolts fk up after one use.

Everything I've bought like rear lights, footpegs, brake/clutch levers, horn switch everything has failed after one down poor or even standing on the footrest and it snapping off.


Sym is Taiwanese, they won't take too kindly to being called chinese !! Also, what on earth are you doing to your bikes?, I've only ever had to replace 1 clutch cable, the occasional brake pads or drum depending on which bike, and 1 chain, through normal wear and tear, and even after I came off my Lifan LF400, only had to replace a footpeg, wasn't broke, just badly scuffed. No worse than any of my other non chinese bikes. I use my bikes for commuting daily, no matter what the weather, and all is fine. Having said that, I've never had a skyjet or sym bike.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragamuffin wrote:
They will rust within a week


AFAIK this is the sign of a good disc, it means there is a high iron content in it.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was planning on looking for corrosion under the discs first, I'll still do that Thumbs Up



linuxyeti wrote:
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally no, having experience of Chinese engineering and metals in other areas than bike bits. When it comes to critical parts it's not worth it to me to take the chance if there is a doubt about quality.

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PostPosted: 16:13 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, for all of the above reason. Galfer or something for me please.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a set of cheap wavy discs on my CBR600 RR for about a year, similar looking to the ones you've posted.

They worked, looked good and didn't rust/warm under my ownership.

The only thing I would say though, is that they seemed to have maybe only 3/4 of their stopping power in the wet (heavy rain) as they did in the dry.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The TRX had cheap Kagizume discs on it when I bought it, after the second winter there was so much corrosion around the semi floating bobbins they warped and couldn't be made to sit straight again. They were also heavier than the OE discs, but worked just fine when they were straight.

After a while Kagizume stopped making round discs and only made wavy ones, most without their name on. Those look a lot like what they make now..
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Tiger 900 Kagizume Discs the good the bad and the reallyugly Reply with quote

Two years ago I purchased two wavy rotors from Ebay for the front and a plain disc for the rear both were Kagizume make as the Triumph ones were silly priced (£750 for 3).
*** The Good ***
They are really cheap and looked good for a week. They brake and stop you fine and passed an MOT.
*** The Bad ***
They were advertised as stainless but after two weeks rusted quickly so looked like they were years old.
Within two Months the front discs warped slightly but they actually worn flat again after 6 Months of use. The rear disc bolts had to be filed shorter as the disc was slightly loose due to slight spec difference in thickness. I used Hammorite black on the rusty part of the disc.
*** The Ugly ***
My rear disc snapped last week in one place and cracked at the opposite side and had a 4mm gap once I took the bolts out. Luckily it did not fall in half.
The disc has not had much wear.
It looks like the disc was permanently stressed in manufacture causing it to be a time bomb. It is so stressed that I cannot manually close the 4mm gap again with brute force.
Bottom line I will never buy Kagizume discs again. Mine was dangerous and very poor quality.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 09 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a china disc on my gpz. no issues with rusting over (unless the salt roads were wet on the ride in that day in which case minor spots after a few hours) and no cracking or warping of note after a few thousand miles now and i only use the front brake due to shitty availability of good non-warped rear wheels.

i'd buy one again as it was £40 delivered from china land vs the 90 delivered for one here. In hindsight i should have bought 2 at the time to save postage.

some stuff from china is crap. not all of it
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 09 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:

I don't particularly like the look of wavey discs either.


Indeed, and these look like they have lots of possible stress points too. I no likey either.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 09 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had Chinese discs on a cbr600f and they warped after one trackday.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 09 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

linuxyeti wrote:
Serioulsy, I've owner various chinese motorbikes, from 125's upto the CF650TR.


Just the man we have been waiting for, review please.
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PostPosted: 02:01 - 10 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkeybiker wrote:
I had Chinese discs on a cbr600f and they warped after one trackday.


My mate had good quality Bendix pads on a trackday, the friction material came off the backing pads after a few dozen laps. Citing trackday attrition is a bit unfair on any component designed for normal road use.
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