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ScaredyCat
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Chain adjusters Reply with quote
Not sure this qualifies for workshop since 'general n00b question'


I've been looking at what my next bike will be and have, because I'm a lazy git and I am concerned about fucking up tensioning the chain, been looking at shaft drive bikes. That leaves me with quite a limited selection and in a 'nasty' price bracket.

Just by chance I found this video:

https://youtu.be/DUPULxBKXsE?t=18

Once these are fitted, it appears, to my untrained eye, to be a case of twisting the knob at the end to increase the tension, making sure both sides have the same number - job done, bob's your aunt.

So, am I missing something because I haven't noticed any of the chain drive bikes I've looked at having these fitted. Are they not considered a standard feature, if not why not. Seems to me like even someone as mechanically inept as me could get chain tensioning right with these fitted.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
They work exactly like many other bikes. You still have to loosen the spindle nut and turn the adjuster.

But they are very shiny....
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pete. wrote:
They work exactly like many other bikes. You still have to loosen the spindle nut and turn the adjuster.

But they are very shiny....


Sorry, to be clear are you saying the nut for the axle still needs to be undone? That's the particular part I'm not entirely happy with doing.

Also available in matte black Smile
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
ScaredyCat wrote:

Sorry, to be clear are you saying the nut for the axle still needs to be undone? That's the particular part I'm not entirely happy with doing.

Also available in matte black Smile


Of course you do. The integrity of the bearing and spacer stack depends on it being firmly clamped. If you can't follow what is a basic procedure of using a socket and torque wrench to tighten one nut how can you hope to get the wheel alignment right?

You need someone to show you just the once then it'll be easy.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pete. wrote:
how can you hope to get the wheel alignment right?


The wheel alignment is the part that concerns me not so much the tightening of the nut.


Pete. wrote:
You need someone to show you


Of this I am painfully aware. I've watched loads of youtube videos, I can see what needs to be done, but tbh it needs someone to check I've done it right.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are you worried you'll turn the tensioning nuts more on one side than the other?, it doesn't really matter that much, so long as they are pretty much the same length (check with a micrometer type thing) so that they the same length if you can't be assed to undo and redo exactly 360 degrees each time or 90 etc.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
ScaredyCat wrote:
Pete. wrote:
They work exactly like many other bikes. You still have to loosen the spindle nut and turn the adjuster.

But they are very shiny....


Sorry, to be clear are you saying the nut for the axle still needs to be undone? That's the particular part I'm not entirely happy with doing.

Also available in matte black Smile


Fucking hell you are actually thick.

You'd be better off getting a car.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you really can't deal with chain adjustment then just buy a bike with a single sided swingarm.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
God.i wrote:
Adjusting the chain isn't hard when you get used to it and rarely needs doing with a chain oiler fitted.

I used to fuck it up all the time. Now I can do it with out thinking twice.

Practice makes perfect as they say.

A question, is welding on the front sprocket a prerequisite for adjusting the chain, or is it dealers choice?

ScaredyCat wrote:
Pete. wrote:
how can you hope to get the wheel alignment right?


The wheel alignment is the part that concerns me not so much the tightening of the nut.


It used to with me, but it really shouldn't worry.
Potential Consequences of a totally fucked up alignment...
Excessive Chain and Sprocket wear (meh), Excessive uneven tyre wear (meh)
When the Axle clamps down it tends to realign itself a lot anyway, If you're that concerned buy a Vernier Caliper and you cannot fuck up.
Do it, ride bike, realise not deaded.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wheel alignment is kinda self-compensating in that you'll naturally steer the bike to run straight no matter how wonky it is. Not suggesting you fit your wheels at 90 degrees to each other BTW.

More people mess up the chain tension TBH.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some pretty harsh people in this thread - we were all new once!

You aren't a million miles from me (though not particularly close either to be fair). If you fancy popping over one day I'll happily show you the ropes, you'll be surprised at how easy it is.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
ScaredyCat wrote:
Pete. wrote:
They work exactly like many other bikes. You still have to loosen the spindle nut and turn the adjuster.

But they are very shiny....


Sorry, to be clear are you saying the nut for the axle still needs to be undone? That's the particular part I'm not entirely happy with doing.

Also available in matte black Smile


I'm confused how you can not be happy undoing a nut. You put a spanner on each side, and push down on the nut side. If it doesn't move, you push a bit harder.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
c_dug wrote:
Some pretty harsh people in this thread - we were all new once!

You aren't a million miles from me (though not particularly close either to be fair). If you fancy popping over one day I'll happily show you the ropes, you'll be surprised at how easy it is.


Google says 1 Hour 30 mins, so not too bad really. Bike is due for a service soon and I need a new rear tyre so if I can take you up on the offer a little later in the year that'd be great.
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c_dug wrote:
Some pretty harsh people in this thread - we were all new once!


No-one is "4 years new".
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c_dug wrote:
I'll happily show you the ropes, you'll be surprised at how easy it is.


OP, you ever see a film called "Deliverance"?
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Commuter_Tim wrote:
c_dug wrote:
I'll happily show you the ropes, you'll be surprised at how easy it is.


OP, you ever see a film called "Deliverance"?


I'm the one with a banjo Wink
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CaNsA wrote:
No-one is "4 years new".


2 different bikes, 8 months with a broken leg, 4 punctures requiring tyre replacement, 2 services. I've never actually had to do it before.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
ScaredyCat wrote:
CaNsA wrote:
No-one is "4 years new".


2 different bikes, 8 months with a broken leg, 4 punctures requiring tyre replacement, 2 services. I've never actually had to do it before.


Soooo.... just lazy then.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
ScaredyCat wrote:
CaNsA wrote:
No-one is "4 years new".


2 different bikes, 8 months with a broken leg, 4 punctures requiring tyre replacement, 2 services. I've never actually had to do it before.


Don't feel you have to defend yourself bud
Tis only the Internetz Laughing

As I didn't have the tools, I had someone change my chain and sprocket set. I watched and learned a great deal, but I still wouldn't of been confident doing it independently.

Skip forward a year and it's time for a new tyre. Again I could use the excuse of not having the tools, but that was the least of my concerns.
I was going touring & I didn't fancy the risk of wrecking myself abroad, becoming a burden on my fellow BCF Eurojollyers or losing confidence in the bike. So my local tyre place removed the wheel, replaced the tyre and re-tensioned everything.

I'm very much a believer of hands on learning, but there is a time and place. I don't commute or "need" my bike on a daily basis, But I want to enjoy myself when I go out for a ride. Something I don't think I could do if I didn't have confidence in the bike. I've completed almost every service item for my SV & enjoyed doing it.
According to a few members, because I can't touch the rear wheel I should have my licence revoked Cool
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Rogue_Shadow wrote:

According to a few members, because I can't touch the rear wheel I should have my licence revoked Cool
(You'll never take me alive!)


They're right Bro... GIMME YER LICENCE or we'll give ya a knuckle sammich! Hand Bounce!
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