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 Posted: 12:28 - 13 Mar 2016  Post subject: Not sure what direction to go in (bike wise) |
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Thinking of changing bikes but not sure if I should go bigger, smaller, or stay where I am.
Bigger bikes I like: Ducati Hypermotard, Duke 690, MT-07/09. Think the MT's might still be a bit too new, ideally would like to spend no more than 3.5k, which probably rules out the Duke as well.
Smaller: CRF250M, CL400, CB400SS, VTR250. A few rare ones there but that's the sort of thing I'm interested in. Downside would be losing a bit of power and I like having twin discs upfront. Upside they would be lighter, and have better fuel economy (although not really fussed about that).
Stick with what I've got. The MT-03 does everything I ask of it, it has enough power for big boy roads, yet you can still give it some without reaching incredibly stupid speeds. I guess after 2 years (although not that many miles  ) I just want a change.
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OP, buy something, that would be new to you, that would feel different. Don't buy yet another single cylinder tourer/commuter, you are going to get disappointed.
I know I'm gonna get raped here, but try an in-line 4 or 3 cylinder. Try a V4, V2, what ever, but don't go single cylinder again. Live a little, try something new. There is a place for a single cylinder motorcycle, but as I understand your situation, you went from a L-plate 125 right to the MT03, so you didn't experience much of a difference, yet.
If sports motorcycles are not your cup of tea, there are tons of naked motorcycles to choose from.
Cheap alternatives:
Triumph speed 4, Speed triple (955)
Kawasaki z750/1000 (the modern bikes, not the classic air cooled warhorses)
Honda 600/919 Hornet
and other motorcycles...
If you don't mind much older motorcycles, then I claim that everyone should own a in-line four cylinder 400cc four stroke, at some point. I did and it was the most fun a man can have, being dressed and sober. I got rid of it, because I've got a list of motorcycles that I'd like to obtain and it was time to move on. I spent 2 years on the CB-1.
The fun bit is, you get a grown up motorcycle, with all the sounds and features, yet it's a rather slow one, exceeding ''only'' about 115 mph at full throttle. Plus you can rev it like a crazy person, all the time.
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I say pursue your dreams while you can. 
Anyway, I don't know what's the fuzz about twin-discs, but you can't compare a CB400SF to a MT-03. They might seem similar on the paper, but the reality is completely different. It's the way you get that power out of the engine that matters, not the actual number on a piece of paper. 
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BIGGA MOAR POWER! cos that will mean you`re in with the big boys! and girls knickers will fall off when you arrive! 
Or you could just buy what you like the look of
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| M.C wrote: | Being able to stop in time The brakes on a ER5 are terrifying IMO, although they do have rear drum. |
Yes, that was unfortunate, but you should understand that there are various of disc brakes setups. The ER5 is a very cheap motorcycle. If you fit a proper caliper, MC and disc there, you'd talk differently now. Maintenance and brake pads compound, frame geometry and skill of the rider are also parts of the equation. I was on motorcycles with a single disc front brake and I found the braking performance more than adequate, to the weight of the motorcycle and power of the engine. I think Japs were rather reasonable with most of their motorcycles, when deciding on how many brakes a front wheel of a motorcycle needs.
With 99% of motorcycles I've ever had a chance to ride, I used only one finger on the brake lever. The 1% would be the very evil MZ151ETZ.
2 ''modern''* motorcycles I owned = could ride a longer period of time, in various conditions:
The CB-1
It had a single disc brake with a twin pot floating caliper. Very light motorcycle, not that quick. Cheap to service the brakes, duh?! And the performance of the brakes was just spot on. Believe me, I'm not a slow rider and my favourite place to ride is the local mountain ranges with sharp corners and big elevation difference. When the roads there are empty, I ride there several hours at fast pace, back and forth (up and down). I did not have a problem with the braking performance there, not even in 30°C+ temps.
The ''Superbike'' I own now,
It has got twin disc, 4 pot calipers. Very heavy motorcycle, considerably quicker. The lads at Kawasaki put it there, because of the weight and speed it can exceed. The purpose of twin brakes is to support heat dispersion. If you put a single disc brake on the ''Superbike'' and you would keep up the fast pace/slowing down quickly from high speeds and then back on throttle, for long enough, the brake would pretty soon overheat and the fuild would start to boil.
By the way, the ''Superbike'' came with 6 pot calipers from Tokico, the worst calipers I've ever experienced. If you cleaned them up properly, they were alright, but then on my daily ride I wanted to slightly slow down in front of a corner and the brake did nothing at all, then mid corner some pots got out and was interfering with my already wide ride line. Well, I've survived and took those things off the next day.
A set of seals for the Tokico 6 pots is not cheap and they need cleaning all the time.
The 4 pot Nissin calipers are quite nice actually. Superb braking performance and they are practically maintenance free. You don't have to touch the calipers between the fluid and/or pads change. They work 100% all the time.
| M.C wrote: | I was thinking more in terms of the roads it can tackle. Around 50bhp you're still ok on dual-carriageways, where 30ish bhp you're starting to struggle IMO. |
Just because you have a gun, does not mean you're going to shoot anyone, but the option is still there, if you decide to do so.
| M.C wrote: | So what makes 400's special for you? I'm more interested in IL4 250's (Hornet 250/Yamaha Zeal etc.) as they're not that much down on power and lighter. Rare & expensive though, although a couple of cheap (albeit rough looking) Hornet 250's sold on eBay recently. |
I'm being realistic. The dream motorcycle, if talking about 250cc four strokes, would be a ZXR250. But those are so rare, I don't even know where to start to look for. The Hornet 250, FZR250, GSXR250 and others are even more rare, as I've never even seen one in the country.
My other choice would be a KR-1S, NSR250, NS400R and other interesting two strokes, but once again, these are so rare and when you can obtain one, people ask silly money for what I'd call scarp metal material.
Then there are motorcycles I could get, but I'm too reasonable not to. I already turned down a KH250 (reasonable price and condition), after talking to the lads on the BCF.
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* Modern = not much has changed since then (brakes, suspension). The GPz550 with the anti-dive was more something from the past century than a modern motorcycle. But still, 1 finger on the lever action.
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I'll say it now, because I think it's mandatory on all "which bike" threads on BCF now: Street Triple! 
If you're not sure, perhaps it's not yet time to change? I usually go for something when my heart has become set on whatever it might be.
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I very nearly bought an XJR400, and haven't since seen one come up for reasonable money. I guess with a CB400SF you get similar power (to the MT-03) and still have twin discs, only thing's they weigh the same as other big bikes. |
I'd offer swaps cos I'd love an MT-03 like nothing else, but I'd wager yours is worth far more than mine and I love my Super Four too much as well, I want to watch the clock roll round past 99,999.9 KM's and back to zero again, that will make my lifetime. Not long to go, only about 13,000! 
It's not that heavy, but it is far from exciting, like all Honda's, it does it's job incredibly well. You have to force it to be exciting by keeping it as close to 13K RPM as possible and yes, the redline is at 12 and a half.
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| chickenstrip wrote: | I'll say it now, because I think it's mandatory on all "which bike" threads on BCF now: Street Triple!
If you're not sure, perhaps it's not yet time to change? I usually go for something when my heart has become set on whatever it might be. |
I'd like something a bit less common  I normally do what BCF tells me, last time the MT-03 was recommended and I went out & bought one
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I'd offer swaps cos I'd love an MT-03 like nothing else, but I'd wager yours is worth far more than mine and I love my Super Four too much as well, I want to watch the clock roll round past 99,999.9 KM's and back to zero again, that will make my lifetime. |
Dunno about that, it's been into the side of a van and down the road, so it's not the straightest example you'll find  I'm not looking forward to selling the thing, as I think it'll be difficult even if I advertise it cheap. |
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| M.C wrote: | | chickenstrip wrote: | Street Triple!
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I'd like something a bit less common |
That's me; common as muck
Might be so popular for a reason
I wasn't actually seriously suggesting one though. I've no idea what you might like, because I've no idea what you like most about biking.
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I'd offer swaps cos I'd love an MT-03 like nothing else, but I'd wager yours is worth far more than mine and I love my Super Four too much as well, I want to watch the clock roll round past 99,999.9 KM's and back to zero again, that will make my lifetime. |
Dunno about that, it's been into the side of a van and down the road, so it's not the straightest example you'll find I'm not looking forward to selling the thing, as I think it'll be difficult even if I advertise it cheap. |
Hmm, pics? How cheap?
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Indeed. It will always sell |
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