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 eifion Nova Slayer
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 Posted: 09:46 - 19 Mar 2016 Post subject: New job, new bike? |
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In three months time, I'm likely to be not working where I'm working now. Currently, I car share with Mrs E, as we both work in the same building, but that's not likely to be the case anymore, so I need my own transport.
As a new job might well mean going into Oxford every day I don't fancy sitting in a car for an hour each way so I'd be commuting on the bike. At the moment I just use the bike to get around and weekends, or occasionally to work when I know I'm going to be working different hours to the Mrs. But for day to day commuting I don't want the hassle of the chain cleaning, checking, adjusting that doing that sort of mileage on the SV would mean.
So I'm looking for something low maintenance, efficient, practical etc, which points me towards a Deauville. Or does it? what else would fit my bill as a reliable daily commuter that doesn't need loads of looking after? I did half suggest that I could commute on a Deauville and get something sportier for the weekend, which was met with a definite no, so it's one bike for me. Looking to spend around £2k plus whatever the SV is worth. ____________________ SR125 -> 6 year gap -> SV650 -> Deauville -> NC750X -> Vstrom 650 |
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 G The Voice of Reason
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 Posted: 09:54 - 19 Mar 2016 Post subject: Re: New job, new bike? |
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Chain oiler on the SV and that solves half your problems.
Brake servicing (at least on the mk1) is more of an irksome task, I'd say.
However, saying that; get a GSXR1000 and a chain oiler in your budget for commuting fun along with a bit more 'sporty' . |
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Yup, BMW's 800s are often overlooked. Some early bikes had issues but if they're still in use then they're likely to have been sorted by now.
But an MCN review?
The usual slurping sounds as they bang on about BMW quality, and how would it even be possible to get 38mpg out of that engine? 1st gear, feet dragging on the ground?  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Indeed, "overlooked" means you can bag a bargain. I'd go as late as possible since I believe BMW have done their usual trick of fixing issues during production while maintaining a resolute steely denial that they existed. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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How far's the commute? What roads and speeds?
If it's mainly towns/city and a bit of A-road but no motorway stuff id just get a tidy and cheap 125-300cc scooter and have a nice sunny weekend bike, like a Daytona 675R, R6 etc, or follow G's wisdom and get a cheaper sports bike and maybe a noisy orange beast if you fancy some dirty fun?
have you space for 2/3bikes before we all get carried away though?  |
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If commuting is the main purpose, I'd be looking at something rather smaller with better MPG.
Are CB500's (modern, twin cylinder) still around? Get an early one. Indestructible engine, good MPG, tons of spare parts, reliable. Go for the Brembo calipers version only (44kW, better brakes). The earlier model was about 37kW and drum at the back.
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery/Honda%20CB%20500E%2098.jpg
https://www.motorera.com/honda/h0500/cb500s/cb500s-98a.jpg ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
'95 Mercedes-Benz w202 C200 CGI, '98 Mercedes-Benz w210 E200 Kompressor |
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| stevo as b4 wrote: | How far's the commute? What roads and speeds? |
I don't know - don't have the new job yet. Going any significant distance north / south means A34 at some point, so will need to do motorway speeds without feeling like I'm wringing its neck. And there's definitely a weekly 45 minute trip up the A34 to the gliding club.
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have you space for 2/3bikes before we all get carried away though?  |
I have space for 2 bikes just, I have "home office" approval for one!
Just been out on a half hour test-ride on an 08 Deauville. I liked the fairing and the screen, I liked having mirrors that show me the road rather than my elbows and shoulders, and I loved the heated grips. Can't say I noticed the extra weight much, and it felt pretty agile and maneuverable. There was just something missing, it didn't feel as immediate or responsive or "bikey" as I'm used to. And I'm coming from an SV650, so I'm hardly accustomed to a massive excess of power. Maybe it was just the screen / fairing whereas I'm used to naked bikes.
I actually enjoyed the ride, very comfy, easy to ride, and if it was a head-only decision I'd have bought it right away - then again if it was a head-only decision I'd end up with a Nissan Note or something.
Never considered ze german before, always assumed they'd be out of my price range. Will have to look round if there's one near me to have a sit on at least. ____________________ SR125 -> 6 year gap -> SV650 -> Deauville -> NC750X -> Vstrom 650 |
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Ok well with more info supplied and your needs and preferences strongly weighted towards a proper bike, not a scooter, or a hack or a little 100mpg wonder, then you can eliminate quite a few ideas I would suggest.
1, Sports bike, would be a waste of time, money and running costs. And you'd have to factor in the type of commute/how heavy and slow the traffic might be, and how much stuff you might need to carry? There's also the aspect of leaving a desirable sports bikes parked at some unknown work locations and security.
2, The one bike ruling, means you'd need it to do the week day commute thing well, but be sensible to run and maintain, and not be too boring to put you off using it at weekends or for getting to your other hobbies.
Just my thinking is that you can throw out adventure bikes, dedicated big capacity tourers that are heavy and cumbersome (ST1300/ FJR/GTR1400) and also the really fast sports tourers like the Blackbird/Busa/K1300 etc.
So does that leave some decent middle weight 600-800cc shaft drive bikes that have some appeal and fun factor beyond commuting, carrying stuff, and mile munching? I think shaft or belt drive is an advantage over the much more frequent maintenance of a chain drive bike, and this could depend on how many miles a week you will clock up?
There aint no right or wrong bike I guess, and you could make anything work, but id want some simplicity and ease of use, so for example if I was clocking up big miles a chain drive bike could annoy me, as could something complicated and time consuming to strip the clothes off to service or fiddly like a VFR750 etc. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 285 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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