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eifion
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: New job, new bike? Reply with quote

In three months time, I'm likely to be not working where I'm working now. Currently, I car share with Mrs E, as we both work in the same building, but that's not likely to be the case anymore, so I need my own transport.

As a new job might well mean going into Oxford every day I don't fancy sitting in a car for an hour each way so I'd be commuting on the bike. At the moment I just use the bike to get around and weekends, or occasionally to work when I know I'm going to be working different hours to the Mrs. But for day to day commuting I don't want the hassle of the chain cleaning, checking, adjusting that doing that sort of mileage on the SV would mean.

So I'm looking for something low maintenance, efficient, practical etc, which points me towards a Deauville. Or does it? what else would fit my bill as a reliable daily commuter that doesn't need loads of looking after? I did half suggest that I could commute on a Deauville and get something sportier for the weekend, which was met with a definite no, so it's one bike for me. Looking to spend around £2k plus whatever the SV is worth.
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Re: New job, new bike? Reply with quote

Chain oiler on the SV and that solves half your problems.
Brake servicing (at least on the mk1) is more of an irksome task, I'd say.

However, saying that; get a GSXR1000 and a chain oiler in your budget for commuting fun along with a bit more 'sporty' Smile.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

F800S belt drive, reasonable mpg and performance available from 2k up

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/bmw/f800s/2006/
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamaha XJ900S Diversion, should be able to get a decent one with full luggage for under 2 grand. Much more fun than a Dullville, and you can keep your SV (or get something else) for weekends without blowing your budget.
As a year-round commuter, I like having more than one bike available; if I'm doing work on one I can take my time and don't need to worry about having the right tools/parts to hand rather than needing to rush it for the following day's commute.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he said ^^^^^^^^

If you are commuting on it what happens of you need parts

No bike to get to work on while you wait
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudshark wrote:
F800S belt drive, reasonable mpg and performance available from 2k up

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/bmw/f800s/2006/

Yup, BMW's 800s are often overlooked. Some early bikes had issues but if they're still in use then they're likely to have been sorted by now.

But an MCN review? Laughing

The usual slurping sounds as they bang on about BMW quality, and how would it even be possible to get 38mpg out of that engine? 1st gear, feet dragging on the ground? Wink
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudshark wrote:
F800S belt drive, reasonable mpg and performance available from 2k up



Thumbs Up I purchased an '09 F800ST with 16k on the clock for just over 2k after I moved jobs from Oxford to Bristol in November.

I initially bought it just because it was cheap and wanted to try belt drive. Well I have to say its a cracking bike and probably one of the best purchases I've made, factory fitted heated grips are a god send and because its so cheap I wont cry if I throw it down on ice one morning.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, "overlooked" means you can bag a bargain. I'd go as late as possible since I believe BMW have done their usual trick of fixing issues during production while maintaining a resolute steely denial that they existed.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How far's the commute? What roads and speeds?

If it's mainly towns/city and a bit of A-road but no motorway stuff id just get a tidy and cheap 125-300cc scooter and have a nice sunny weekend bike, like a Daytona 675R, R6 etc, or follow G's wisdom and get a cheaper sports bike and maybe a noisy orange beast if you fancy some dirty fun?

have you space for 2/3bikes before we all get carried away though? Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Re: New job, new bike? Reply with quote

eifion wrote:
I did half suggest that I could commute on a Deauville and get something sportier for the weekend, which was met with a definite no, so it's one bike for me.

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PostPosted: 12:26 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If commuting is the main purpose, I'd be looking at something rather smaller with better MPG.

Are CB500's (modern, twin cylinder) still around? Get an early one. Indestructible engine, good MPG, tons of spare parts, reliable. Go for the Brembo calipers version only (44kW, better brakes). The earlier model was about 37kW and drum at the back. Thumbs Up

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eifion
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
How far's the commute? What roads and speeds?


I don't know - don't have the new job yet. Going any significant distance north / south means A34 at some point, so will need to do motorway speeds without feeling like I'm wringing its neck. And there's definitely a weekly 45 minute trip up the A34 to the gliding club.

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have you space for 2/3bikes before we all get carried away though? Laughing


I have space for 2 bikes just, I have "home office" approval for one!

Just been out on a half hour test-ride on an 08 Deauville. I liked the fairing and the screen, I liked having mirrors that show me the road rather than my elbows and shoulders, and I loved the heated grips. Can't say I noticed the extra weight much, and it felt pretty agile and maneuverable. There was just something missing, it didn't feel as immediate or responsive or "bikey" as I'm used to. And I'm coming from an SV650, so I'm hardly accustomed to a massive excess of power. Maybe it was just the screen / fairing whereas I'm used to naked bikes.

I actually enjoyed the ride, very comfy, easy to ride, and if it was a head-only decision I'd have bought it right away - then again if it was a head-only decision I'd end up with a Nissan Note or something.

Never considered ze german before, always assumed they'd be out of my price range. Will have to look round if there's one near me to have a sit on at least.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok well with more info supplied and your needs and preferences strongly weighted towards a proper bike, not a scooter, or a hack or a little 100mpg wonder, then you can eliminate quite a few ideas I would suggest.

1, Sports bike, would be a waste of time, money and running costs. And you'd have to factor in the type of commute/how heavy and slow the traffic might be, and how much stuff you might need to carry? There's also the aspect of leaving a desirable sports bikes parked at some unknown work locations and security.

2, The one bike ruling, means you'd need it to do the week day commute thing well, but be sensible to run and maintain, and not be too boring to put you off using it at weekends or for getting to your other hobbies.

Just my thinking is that you can throw out adventure bikes, dedicated big capacity tourers that are heavy and cumbersome (ST1300/ FJR/GTR1400) and also the really fast sports tourers like the Blackbird/Busa/K1300 etc.

So does that leave some decent middle weight 600-800cc shaft drive bikes that have some appeal and fun factor beyond commuting, carrying stuff, and mile munching? I think shaft or belt drive is an advantage over the much more frequent maintenance of a chain drive bike, and this could depend on how many miles a week you will clock up?

There aint no right or wrong bike I guess, and you could make anything work, but id want some simplicity and ease of use, so for example if I was clocking up big miles a chain drive bike could annoy me, as could something complicated and time consuming to strip the clothes off to service or fiddly like a VFR750 etc.
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eifion
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose realistically looking at the mileage I'm unlikely to take anything that gives me more than a 30-mile round trip a day, so that's 150 miles a week. Add another 50 or so for weekend stuff and we're looking at 200 a week tops, or 800 a month.

So what's that in chain fiddling business - clean / lube once a week, check + adjust tension once a month, which I'm probably already doing anyway.

Maybe a scottoiler is the way to go. Did like the screen, though...
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought about getting a faired SV650 to replace the ZZR600 when it got smashed into.

fixed the ZZR in the end but why not commute on the SV, or is it a nekked one and you'd like a fairing?
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 21 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered luggaging up the SV or newer/faster/nicer/more comfortable half-faired middleweight? Check out the sw motech quicklock evo racks and some thin bixes like the givi e21 or kappa equivalent. I'm doing similar with a faired bandit, fazers were also considered and more fun. Deuville is not particularly big but having followed a few in the twisties, i dont tnink they are that chuckable or can carry that much lean angle. Rear integrated luggage is very neat and slim though.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 21 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just keep the sv to be honest and get a chain oiler for it.
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