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PostPosted: 20:17 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Riding with low oil Reply with quote

Riding along today on my Triumph Sprint giving it some on country roads for about 30mins and then ended up going back through a town.

I accelerated away from some lights and the rear wheel span up/slipped a bit and I thought nothing of it.
Same thing again at the next lights and I was suspicious.

I stopped at the next lights, right next to where I was going and saw the engine oil pressure light come on. I quickly switched off the engine but had to start it again to ride the bike 10m across the road to get into the retail park. As soon as I crossed the right lane (as I was turning right) I killed the engine again and rolled it down a slope into a Starbucks car park.

It leaked for a bit while I waited for the RAC to get me and recover me home.

What damage could be done?

Key points:
-When I got home I took out the sump plug and approx 500ml of oil came out.

-I know the oil level was good the night before.

-When I killed the engine and then started it again, the light went on/off a few times if I revved the engine a little.

-When I got to the carpark, a small coffee cup 3/4 full of oil drained out from around the filter

-Approx another 500ml of oil came out when I drained what was left at home

-When at the final lights the bike engine (not the exhaust) seemed slightly louder...not wrong or odd, just louder.

TL;DR,
Oil light came on, I stopped within 50m/30s.
Got it recovered home and there was about 500ml oil left

How fucked am I?
And what would cause the leak, it looked like the oil was leaking around the oil filter, but removing the oil filter didn't reveal anything obvious... (filter wasn't punctured and the seal looked decent)
The sump plug was also nice and tight on removal and showed no signs of oil leaking around it.


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PostPosted: 20:32 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my non expert opinion it will run again and it'll be fine.

It's not possible to know how much if any damage has been done. An indication will be lots of metal fragments in your next oil change (magnetic sump plugs are good for this). Keep an eye on engine temp too as that may highlight some increased friction from the 'possible' damage.

Had a recent service? It could be someone didn't check for leaks after fitting the new oil filter. Most people hand tighten them, which is fine if they also check them after the engine has been warmed.

Fingers crossed.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you didn't run it far and didn't run it dry then you'll probably be ok. The fillter may well have worked loose and caused the leak.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking the same...

My fingers are VERY crossed right now haha and I only picked the bike up last night!!

The small amount of oil that came out did look very black, but no metal fragments or anything horrendous like that and I didn't notice the bike overeating at all before I killed the engine.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably just a hand-tight filter done up with a faggot's handshake.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be ok. It'll only cost you a few litres of oil to find out. If it doesn't knock then it's likely to be fine.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The oil pressure warning light will come on when oil pressure is critically low.
If you didn't stress the engine after the light cam on then it will more than likely be nothing to worry about.

You need to not get your bike serviced by faggots. Smile

New filter, oil and ride off into the sunset.

If you're strapped for cash then you could possibly cheat and tighten up the old filter but if it has been reused previously at last service then the sealing ring may be compromised and no longer able to hold the filter on. Possibly why it came slack if that's the cause of the leak.
'Most' spin-on filters are put on to hand-tight (and rarely, given a baw hair more if they leak)
There are some spin-on filters that need a tool/strap to torque them on very tight. Kawasaki for example.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

At idle little load so hopefully no damage.

Where is the oil leaking from?

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:30 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
Probably just a hand-tight filter done up with a faggot's handshake.

Hand tight is all that's required.

I don't know what a faggot's handshake is. What is one and how are you familiar with such things?
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 03 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you just got 500ml out after checking it was ok the night before. Triumph Sprint, about 4l of oil if it's filled correctly and you didn't notice 3.5l of oil coming out on your ride to Starbucks. Buy a car mate.

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PostPosted: 06:02 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:
So you just got 500ml out after checking it was ok the night before. Triumph Sprint, about 4l of oil if it's filled correctly and you didn't notice 3.5l of oil coming out on your ride to Starbucks. Buy a car mate.

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It's actually 3L if you fill it wet and don't change the filter

But thank you for your comment, it has REALLY helped Smile
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:
ADSrox0r wrote:
Probably just a hand-tight filter done up with a faggot's handshake.

Hand tight is all that's required.

I don't know what a faggot's handshake is. What is one and how are you familiar with such things?


Hand Tight is incorrect.

Spin-on filter are normally turned on until the seal contacts the face of the filter base. Then the filter is turned an additional 3/4 turn to set the compression of the seal.
As I said some manufacturers recommend a much tighter torque than hand tight or tightened by hand.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haynes manual says 10Nm for the filter Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX-7R wrote:
BillyJ wrote:
Haynes manual says 10Nm for the filter Shocked


Is 10nm tighter than a faggot's handshake?.

Confused


10Nm is about how hard you can push a 20cm long spanner with one finger
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX-7R wrote:


That's a yes then.

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I have checked it out on t' Internet.

Seems legit. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

New filter on and torqued to 10Nm

I remember the old filter being looser than 10Nm so I'll put the leak down to a loose filter since there is nothing else that's obvious and the oil was definitely leaking from around the filter.

Ran it and thank the lord, it sounds good, no knocking/grinding/anything bad or unusual so don't need to change the big end bearings(I was quite nervous about that Laughing ) Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Thanks for the reassurance/help Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
New filter on and torqued to 10Nm

I remember the old filter being looser than 10Nm so I'll put the leak down to a loose filter since there is nothing else that's obvious and the oil was definitely leaking from around the filter.

Ran it and thank the lord, it sounds good, no knocking/grinding/anything bad or unusual so don't need to change the big end bearings(I was quite nervous about that Laughing ) Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Thanks for the reassurance/help Thumbs Up


If you can muk-off the bike and pressure wash it.
Let it dry Probably on the road back from pressure washing if you don't own a one.
Park it over a bit of card board, inside out Cornflake or your Spongebob Squarepants cereal packet is perfect.
Check for evidence of leaks dripped onto the clean cardboard in the morning.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:


If you can muk-off the bike and pressure wash it.
Let it dry Probably on the road back from pressure washing if you don't own a one.
Park it over a bit of card board, inside out Cornflake or your Spongebob Squarepants cereal packet is perfect.
Check for evidence of leaks dripped onto the clean cardboard in the morning.


Good shout, I cleaned it the day after the leak and the sump was clean when I installed the filter so I'll leave out a bit of drop detection cardboard over night Thumbs Up
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