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dombaird
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Any 'How To's' for brake lines on a gsxr k7? Reply with quote

As the title really Shocked

any one done any? going to give it a try myself, doesnt look overly difficult but i would rather some guidelines if possible

I know, there is going to be plenty....check google! check youtube etc, but i would rather ask BCF members from a more personal perspective! any help is appreciated Very Happy

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PostPosted: 12:39 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you want to do with brake lines?

Replacing them:

1. unbolt old lines

2. Bolt on New lines with new crush washers.

3. Bleed brakes.

On a K7, id be tempted just to bleed the brakes first (it sounds like this isn't something youve done before?) and call it a day.


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PostPosted: 12:40 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for the reply

bought some new HEL braided lines while at the TT and looking to swap out the rubber ones for these ones

sounds simple enough!
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

dombaird wrote:
cheers for the reply

bought some new HEL braided lines while at the TT and looking to swap out the rubber ones for these ones

sounds simple enough!


Ah, yeah, if you've already bought the brake lines, you might as well replace them.

I'd start with the rear if this is your first time bleeding brakes, as it's just 1 line, and probably just a single piston.

I'd have a bucket to put the old line into as you unbolt it, as it helps to catch any brake fluid in. Also have a cloth to wipe any drips on the paint.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

(sorry, I can't edit posts at work as the virus software blocks it).

The front is the same as the rear. Just unbolt the lines that are already there, and add the new lines, using 2 new crush washers for each banjo bolt.

Bleed at the caliper furthest away from the mastercylinder (furthest from right handlebar).

Then bleed the other side.

I tend to go back and repeat the bleeding of both sides just to make sure I've got most of the air out.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

great help!

yeah i have the lines, will do the rear tonight as it seems to be the easier of the two

thanks! been a great help!
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rear is definitely a nice quick simple introduction to doing it, fronts are just as simple but a bit more of a pain in the arse purely because there's more places for air to hide in the system.

I don't know if the GSXR has one as standard but if not try and get hold of a double banjo bolt with a built in bleed nipple HEL sell them on their site they seriously reduce the stress of trying to get all the air out of the front lines as it likes to hide up by the MC.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
Rear is definitely a nice quick simple introduction to doing it, fronts are just as simple but a bit more of a pain in the arse purely because there's more places for air to hide in the system.

I don't know if the GSXR has one as standard but if not try and get hold of a double banjo bolt with a built in bleed nipple HEL sell them on their site they seriously reduce the stress of trying to get all the air out of the front lines as it likes to hide up by the MC.


i got the double bolt from the stand! this is a bit thats confusing me Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

dombaird wrote:
tom_e wrote:
Rear is definitely a nice quick simple introduction to doing it, fronts are just as simple but a bit more of a pain in the arse purely because there's more places for air to hide in the system.

I don't know if the GSXR has one as standard but if not try and get hold of a double banjo bolt with a built in bleed nipple HEL sell them on their site they seriously reduce the stress of trying to get all the air out of the front lines as it likes to hide up by the MC.


i got the double bolt from the stand! this is a bit thats confusing me Shocked


The double bolt goes at the master cylinder (it lets you put 2 hoses on the 1 bolt).

on the long bolt, you'll need 3 crush washers. 1 goes on the bolt, then a banjo from one of the hoses, then another crush washer, then another banjo from the other hose, then a third crush washer, then bolt it onto the master cylinder.

You can get special bolts with a bleed nipple on that bolt. it's not needed, but makes bleeding the brakes a bit easier as gives you a 3rd point to bleed from. That's what the other poster recommended. If you got that bolt, but dont know what to do with it, just ignore it to keep things simple for now, but just make sure its shut.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

All GSXR-K7s come with a radial front master cylinder and there is a bleed port built in already,so there would be no point in buying a double banjo bolt incorperating a blleed nipple.

I recently replaced the old rubber brake lines during the FJ1200 rebuild and using two lines from the master cylinder,it looks like this

https://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w384/Rhencullen5/FJ1200/20160612_163836_zpstgwk7f5v.jpg

and at the caliper it looks like this

https://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w384/Rhencullen5/FJ1200/20160612_164135_zpscciufiq6.jpg
https://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w384/Rhencullen5/FJ1200/20160617_150523_zpsht63levg.jpg

If you install the lines and leave the bolts slightly loose,then you can align the lines the way you want them.With HEL lines,you should have a small leaflet that tells you how the hold the line and to twist the banjo itself,so as the lines do not have a twisted look.Once you are happy with the way the lines go,tighten the bolts to the recommended torque.

(Some lines are supplied as a direct replacement and follow the same route as originally built on the assembly line in Japan.On some bikes,one line goes from the master cylinder to one front brake caliper and then another line from that caliper to the other.This can create a problem with bleeding the brakes as air can get trapped in that loop.In this situation it is better to have two lines direct from the master cylinder to each caliper and it helps big time with the bleeding procedure)
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't get much pressure on the lever after bleeding the brakes, tie the lever back to the handlebars and leave overnight. This will allow trapped air to rise up and exit into the fluid reservoir, giving you a much firmer lever.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the front brake assistance and the tie up of the lever over night

great tips! certainly ones that google wouldnt have shown me
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

dombaird wrote:
google wouldnt have shown me


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=brake+lines+on+a+gsxr+k7%3F&oq=brake+lines+on+a+gsxr+k7%3F

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PostPosted: 13:38 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:


google does show you how to do it but as the first post i was looking for someone on here that had done it and knew any tips or first hand advice

some do's or dont's

cheers for the google input though
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