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MattyNI
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Bike Advice Reply with quote
Hi guys,

Its time to upgrade! I been on a CBF125 for way to long now. I finally got the finger out done my theory and my MOD1 with my MOD2 later this month.

I have a budget of around 5-6k and I think I am set on a Street Triple R although I am open to suggestions? I use my bike all year round for commuting to work, don't do much else at the minute because I am bored to death of the 125.

I am currently looking at a private one, 2014 with 5,500 miles. I went to see the bike it is in very good condition however I noticed a slight rust on the chain, not a lot but I was able to notice it.

Would you guys be concerned about this? and what do you think a fair price for the bike would be?

Cheers,
Matty
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NJD
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Bike Advice Reply with quote
MattyNI wrote:
Hi guys,

Its time to upgrade! I been on a CBF125 for way to long now. I finally got the finger out done my theory and my MOD1 with my MOD2 later this month.

I have a budget of around 5-6k and I think I am set on a Street Triple R although I am open to suggestions? I use my bike all year round for commuting to work, don't do much else at the minute because I am bored to death of the 125.

I am currently looking at a private one, 2014 with 5,500 miles. I went to see the bike it is in very good condition however I noticed a slight rust on the chain, not a lot but I was able to notice it.

Would you guys be concerned about this? and what do you think a fair price for the bike would be?

Cheers,
Matty


Firstly I'd say wait until you've passed the Module 2 before putting any amount of money down on anything. Just advice, personal preference of course.

On the subject of the bike I'd say you make a decision. It's your money, your the one that's going to be riding it, your the one that's viewed it in person and also it's not the first bike you've owned, surely you've cleaned rust of a chain before while lubing and cleaning? A quick look at the overall condition and wear of the chain alongside the condition and wear of the sprockets should have told you the answer to your only (it seems anyway) question about this bike. A visual check and the most time would be taken up by removing the front sprocket cover in this case to get a good and proper look inside.

You ask what's a good price like we're meant to guess a figure and then you pick the closet one that appears the most and settle on it with the current owner. What's the current owner asking? Link to an ad?

You've got a lot of money to play with in all honesty for a first bike. There's nothing wrong with that but you spend as much as it as you feel you need to be happy with what you end up with. Ignore the itching to get away from a 125 and buy sensibly. The first one that comes along isn't always the best as appealing as it is.
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Dave70
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wouldn't be overly concerned about a bit of rust on the chain, especially at this time of year. It would probably make me look a bit more closely at other possible neglected things on the bike though.

What's the service history like? Has it had regular oil changes for example and has the owner got any evidence in the form of receipts?

A chain can start to rust pretty quicly given the right conditions. I always look after my bikes. However, I went away once for around 5 days (bike was left outside) and came back to find quite a bit of rust on the chain. Mainly because it had raineda lot and I was using dry wax stuff for chain lube at the time.
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MattyNI
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Bike Advice Reply with quote
I will remove the cover and have a look before I buy if I do go for it, overall it does seem in fine condition

You are prob right about passing MOD2 first to test ride it, but I have been eyeing up a street triple for nearly two years and it is in the nicest colour in my opinion (Matt Graphite).

He is looking 6k which for private sale I think is a little high?I was just wondering if anyone would know a rough price for the bike of this age and miles.

I have cleaned rust but I thought that was just because of the CBF125 are very prone to rusting.

Thanks for the quick replies guys.
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Dave70
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd say that sounds a little on the high side to me but, I'm no expert on these things tbh. The seller probably expects less in reality and has set that price as a starting point for haggling down purposes.

Check the internet for similar models/years and milage. That should give you an idea of the going rate.
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NJD
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Bike Advice Reply with quote
MattyNI wrote:
I will remove the cover and have a look before I buy if I do go for it, overall it does seem in fine condition

You are prob right about passing MOD2 first to test ride it, but I have been eyeing up a street triple for nearly two years and it is in the nicest colour in my opinion (Matt Graphite).


I'd keep grounded over the visuals of a bigger bike for now and rather look at the condition of all the consumables and important mechanical parts. I could throw a bucket of soapy water over my chinese 125 and some ACF-50 and it comes out looking fresh as a daisy impressing the mechanic I use but it still rides like a potato at times (it may be the pilot).

Keep the seller informed and make a decision within a reasonable time-frame for both you and him. If the current owner is a genuine seller don't string them along waiting for you to pass your Module 2 seeming keen and they might miss out on someone else who has the cash in their hand, probably unlike since first come first serve unless friends but you get the message. The only risk buying before hand is that you end up failing having spent thousands of pounds for a very expensive garden ornament screaming at you to be ridden. Just a warning as you aren't the first and won't be the last to have gone down that route.

Prices, hmm, I can't comment that much since I don't really feel it's something I know enough about, there's plenty on here that do and will inform you better than I could. Have you done a search on eBay for bikes of the same model in your area that have been sold and what the listed price was? (there's a special way to look that Borg's mentioned before but I fail to note down). Also other ads for the same model on gumtree, auto trader, dealers in your area?

£6,000 to me is a lot of money and at the top of your budget. It screams buy the best otherwise it ad be a waste. I can't speak of test rides since that's seller dependant but I'd do all you can before putting any money down to prevent issues occurring afterwards. It's much easier to walk away from a seller than it is to get in contact with one once you've purchased zed bike.

Also and probably should have put this in at the top but ask the seller to take the front sprocket cover of. If he can't figure out to do it you have to ask what checks and work he's actually done during his time owning it since (and as far as I'm aware) it's nothing more than a couple of bolts holding it in place (the cover). A good seller will do all they can to assist you within reason to any concerns you may have.
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arry
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 08 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pass test. Go test rides. Then buy bike. It's always for the best.

If you're commuting are you carrying anything and what's your journey like?
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 08 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sellers are asking over £6K.

eBay selling prices.

£5,350

£6,295

Or go Cat C for
£4,950 (with ABS).

So £6K isn't an unrealistic asking price. Chain rust is 30 seconds to remove. Is it HPI clear?

NJD wrote:
Keep the seller informed

Could not disagree more. Buy it, don't buy it, but don't drag the seller into any swithering and dithering. They only want the money, not the drama.

If you buy it now, how are you going to get it home? How are you intending to insure it?

I'd wait until you're licensed: there's no real shortage of Street Triple Rs around.
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