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MikeSinnis
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 11 Apr 2016    Post subject: Sponsored: Sinnis Motorcycles - Enjoy the Ride Reply with quote

Hi all,
You may or may not have heard of Sinnis Motorcycles before, so I thought I would explain who we are and our aim for the future. We pride ourselves on a better quality machine, and although imported we use the same factories and engines as Yamaha, and Suzuki (amongst others), and this gives us an edge over our competition.

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We offer 24 months warranty on 125 and 250cc machines, and 12 months on 50cc (although your dealer may offer you more). We have over 125 dealers in the UK, which are there to help you, and guide you through our range.


We want your first purchase in the world of Motorcycling or Scootering to be the start of a journey that lasts for many years. And if you are already a rider, then we want to show you what you can afford with your money and the peace of mind we can offer.
We have been around since 2005, and our team is made up of motorcycle fans, and every day riders. Anyone that comes to work for us, we insist is either already a rider, or we put them through their CBT and get them on the road with a Sinnis bike. Our feeling is that to create a decent brand, you must first have staff, that believe in the product you sell. This is also a great way for us to get feedback about the products, so we can make improvements. We are not and never will be “box shifters” and we want to grow steadily, with a reputation based on customer support and satisfaction.



You can buy cheaper than Sinnis, but the true cost of buying cheaper will become apparent FAST. Often service schedules are very small (in some cases 300km first service!), and warranty times are only a year no matter what the engine size. Many competitors source from the cheapest factories, as they are unable to buy from the prime factories that Sinnis have access to (due to our long term and very solid connections). Obviously this leads to serious quality problems, recalls, lack of component longevity, and in the end – seriously unhappy riders. We do not want this.
Sinnis Warranty is 1000kms first service, then 2000 followed by every 2000 kms. It’s still not the same as some high end Japanese products, but it’s often less than half the price.

Next up - We test our bikes heavily. Every Sinnis bike or scooter gets over 1000 miles on test (more often about 3000 miles!) before we release it – again some competitors do no testing at all, and buy based on price (another advantage of having all our staff riding, is that we can all test bikes).
We have many accolades with our bikes, such as: the first motorcycle team to finish the Mongol Rally on our Sinnis Apache 125 and 3200 miles in 7 days through 7 countries (for RIDERS for Health) on the Sinnis SP125 and Cafe 125 and many more. We live and breathe what we do.
Some of our trips (and others) can be found here:

http://swww.sinnismotorcycles.com/sinnis-adventures.php


What we are offering is the chance to own a brand new bike, at a fraction of the cost of buying from larger Japanese manufacturers. Our bikes come fully built and PDi’d, with 3 years MOT and 1 year Tax ready to go. Your selling dealer holds your warranty, so any problems you can get them resolved through your local connection. 98% of parts we hold in stock at Sinnis HQ in Brighton, for next day delivery to either yourself, or your dealer.

Our dealer map is located here, to see who is offering Sinnis close to you.
http://swww.sinnismotorcycles.com/find%20a%20dealer.php

We are always available, and also have videos on YouTube, a good presence on Facebook, as well as using Instagram and Tumblr.

https://www.facebook.com/SinnisMotorcycles/
https://www.tumblr.com/blog/sinnismoto


Our head office is in Brighton UK and you are welcome to contact myself (Mike) with any questions, I am Operations Manager at Sinnis and responsible for most of the day to day running of the company – I will be only too happy to help you.
My team is also on hand for anything you need to question, or advice needed.
We have something for everyone in the range, including 50cc and 125cc scooters, retro styled cafe racers, commuter and Supermoto machines and also a rather special custom bobber Heist machine (designed in the USA, by Cleveland Cyclewerks and brought on by Sinnis to the UK while in Brooklyn New York at the invitational Motorcycle Event).
We also have some cool new models coming out in 2016 including the Sinnis RS125 (a sports/street style bike with Yamaha engine) and the Encanto 50cc Scooter (Designed here in Brighton with a retro edge), so if you want something hot off the press – we have it.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk196/mgarrod1/encanto-02.jpg~original The Encanto 50cc

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk196/mgarrod1/IMG_1262.jpg~original The new RS125

Any questions at all, I will be glad to answer
All the best, no matter what you ride,

Our website is here at www.sinnismotorcycles.com

Mike
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Sinnis SP125 Reply with quote

I have a Sinnis SP125 and although it is only my first bike (so I have nothing to really compare it to), I just wanted to say that your bikes are a much more better quality than others I looked at buying, I have a friend who has another Chinese branded bike and even sitting on it makes you feel like it will fall to bits beneath you.

Every time I go onto these motorbike forums, all I seem to find is negativity but finally, Chinese bikes are getting some of the credit that few of them deserve (Sinnis included in that few).

My bike is still in a great condition with the exception of some rust on the exhaust but that is entirely due to have the lack of experience and not knowing how important it was to keep it clean during the winter so that is a fault on my behalf.

If only I could work for you, I would have an endless supply to all of your bikes to test Smile

Thankyou Sinnis and I hope you can grow greatly in the future.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 13 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd quite merrily say something bad about this stupid plug for Sinnis but TBH their bikes seem to be halfway decent. I know at least one motorcycle mechanic who gives Sinnis bikes a thumbs up and he knows his stuff.
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PostPosted: 06:34 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your blade or apache, as standard, capable of green laning and trail riding?
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 01 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS125 doesn't look bad. It seems they care about the biking community as they've even bothered to post a thread on these forums.
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MikeSinnis
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Sinnis SP125 Reply with quote

TenaciousBrit wrote:
I have a Sinnis SP125 and although it is only my first bike (so I have nothing to really compare it to), I just wanted to say that your bikes are a much more better quality than others I looked at buying, I have a friend who has another Chinese branded bike and even sitting on it makes you feel like it will fall to bits beneath you.

Every time I go onto these motorbike forums, all I seem to find is negativity but finally, Chinese bikes are getting some of the credit that few of them deserve (Sinnis included in that few).

My bike is still in a great condition with the exception of some rust on the exhaust but that is entirely due to have the lack of experience and not knowing how important it was to keep it clean during the winter so that is a fault on my behalf.

If only I could work for you, I would have an endless supply to all of your bikes to test Smile

Thankyou Sinnis and I hope you can grow greatly in the future.


Thats really nice to hear - Ive only just found these replies, so Im sorry about that. Im glad you like the SP. If we have any jobs come up, Ill bear you in mind
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
Is your blade or apache, as standard, capable of green laning and trail riding?


The Blade is yes. We have a few people that use them for Greenlaning out there.
Have a look on Youtube - there is a guy called Zach Supermoto (off the top of my head) he's greenlaned his Apache and his blade

Sorry about the reply - only just seen these posts !!
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dimerz wrote:
RS125 doesn't look bad. It seems they care about the biking community as they've even bothered to post a thread on these forums.


Thanks Dimerz - we really do care. Apart from the fact its taken me 2 weeks to reply to you !! Sorry
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninja_butler wrote:
I'd quite merrily say something bad about this stupid plug for Sinnis but TBH their bikes seem to be halfway decent. I know at least one motorcycle mechanic who gives Sinnis bikes a thumbs up and he knows his stuff.


Haha thanks for not saying something bad Smile
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike. Any chance of a fire-sale of non-Eurobollocks-compliant bikes in the lead up to EuroFourogeddon on January 1st 2017? Whistle
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rogerborg.
Not really chap, the fact is we can derogate (so we can sell in 2017) lots of bikes that are not Euro 4 compliant.
So basically the deadline (Jan 1st 2017) is not a total deadline that we have to shift stock by the end of, but we cannot make any more bikes that are Euro 3 after this time.

No fire sale - in fact the bikes will no doubt move quicker that are Euro 3, as they will be a fair bit cheaper than the Euro 4 models.

Sorry Sad

What bike are you interested in ?
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be more interested in what happened with Pepperami and the National Road Rally http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=311748&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25 ..
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
I'd be more interested in what happened with Pepperami and the National Road Rally http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=311748&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25 ..


Do you know what - I totally forgot about this!! My bad.
Shall we do it this year ?

We did end up doing it, but I did it with my colleague, and to be honest we had to "flaunt the law" a fair bit in the last three sections (due to a medical problem) so it was probably best, from a company stance haha
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeSinnis wrote:
we can derogate (so we can sell in 2017) lots of bikes that are not Euro 4 compliant.

a quota applies [to derogated vehicles]. This is either 10% of the total number of vehicles of the relevant categories sold in the UK in the last 24 months by the importer or manufacturer applying for exemption; or 100 motorcycles per importer/manufacturer if that is higher

DVLA, mind, so I'm sure it'll be more honoured in the breach than in the observance. Given your turnover, I don't imagine you have loads of new-old-stock kicking around anyway, although Suzuki may be getting a bit twitchy.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why was the Apache 250 stopped? Simply lack of sales?

As to the 125 @ 8.4 kW, dry weight 119 kg thus 0.07 kW / kg.

Why not closer to the 11 kW , 0.1 kW / kg ? (for the L platers) Give us dat powaaarrr.

PS the AMR does look like a tasty machine, if that, at 125 cc had much closer to the L limits it'd be a serious contender, though I'm not sure how much control Sinnis has over the engine choice.

Are there any "Adventure" stylee bikes on the way, to rival the Honley RX3? I'd threaten to use one of those as a commuter horse.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
MikeSinnis wrote:
we can derogate (so we can sell in 2017) lots of bikes that are not Euro 4 compliant.

a quota applies [to derogated vehicles]. This is either 10% of the total number of vehicles of the relevant categories sold in the UK in the last 24 months by the importer or manufacturer applying for exemption; or 100 motorcycles per importer/manufacturer if that is higher

DVLA, mind, so I'm sure it'll be more honoured in the breach than in the observance. Given your turnover, I don't imagine you have loads of new-old-stock kicking around anyway, although Suzuki may be getting a bit twitchy.


Yea exactly. We have a fair bit of space at 10% to be honest. It applies to offrod bikes too, and we have imported a lot of pit bikes etc.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
Why was the Apache 250 stopped? Simply lack of sales?

As to the 125 @ 8.4 kW, dry weight 119 kg thus 0.07 kW / kg.

Why not closer to the 11 kW , 0.1 kW / kg ? (for the L platers) Give us dat powaaarrr.

PS the AMR does look like a tasty machine, if that, at 125 cc had much closer to the L limits it'd be a serious contender, though I'm not sure how much control Sinnis has over the engine choice.

Are there any "Adventure" stylee bikes on the way, to rival the Honley RX3? I'd threaten to use one of those as a commuter horse.


Yes to adventure bikes Smile Under wraps at the moment, but we have a new machine coming called the Terrain. Let just say we have invested a lot with the factory to ensure the quality is there.

As for the power of the Apache - its a simple Suzuki longevity engine choice over power. We could invest more in more power, and higher retail sales price - but we would rather have longevity and lower retail sales price.
I have seen first hand how YZF125's WR125 are treated

Apache 250 was discontinued because of demand at the time
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeSinnis wrote:
Yes to adventure bikes Smile Under wraps at the moment, but we have a new machine coming called the Terrain. Let just say we have invested a lot with the factory to ensure the quality is there.

As for the power of the Apache - its a simple Suzuki longevity engine choice over power. We could invest more in more power, and higher retail sales price - but we would rather have longevity and lower retail sales price.
I have seen first hand how YZF125's WR125 are treated

Apache 250 was discontinued because of demand at the time


Fair comments thanks.

Also, nailed it with the Adventure bike. Any hint at capacity? At least over 125 ?
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
MikeSinnis wrote:
Yes to adventure bikes Smile Under wraps at the moment, but we have a new machine coming called the Terrain. Let just say we have invested a lot with the factory to ensure the quality is there.

As for the power of the Apache - its a simple Suzuki longevity engine choice over power. We could invest more in more power, and higher retail sales price - but we would rather have longevity and lower retail sales price.
I have seen first hand how YZF125's WR125 are treated

Apache 250 was discontinued because of demand at the time


Fair comments thanks.

Also, nailed it with the Adventure bike. Any hint at capacity? At least over 125 ?


No worries - I will also say we are releasing he RS Elite edition in 2017, its liquid cooled, Efi etc and has the Yamaha YZF 125 engine too. Ive been testing it for a few months now and it is quick

As for the adventure bike - it will be 125, and 250 once we sort the ABS system for it
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeSinnis wrote:
No worries - I will also say we are releasing he RS Elite edition in 2017, its liquid cooled, Efi etc and has the Yamaha YZF 125 engine too. Ive been testing it for a few months now and it is quick

As for the adventure bike - it will be 125, and 250 once we sort the ABS system for it


Magic, looking forward to those releases then Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
MikeSinnis wrote:
No worries - I will also say we are releasing he RS Elite edition in 2017, its liquid cooled, Efi etc and has the Yamaha YZF 125 engine too. Ive been testing it for a few months now and it is quick

As for the adventure bike - it will be 125, and 250 once we sort the ABS system for it


Magic, looking forward to those releases then Thumbs Up


So are we - testing is one thing, getting the bikes here on time for an early 2017 release is another. If only we lived closer to the far east haha
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 18 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeSinnis wrote:
thx1138 wrote:
Is your blade or apache, as standard, capable of green laning and trail riding?


The Blade is yes. We have a few people that use them for Greenlaning out there.
Have a look on Youtube - there is a guy called Zach Supermoto (off the top of my head) he's greenlaned his Apache and his blade

Sorry about the reply - only just seen these posts !!


Thank you for your response, I shall have a look.
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