Realistically speaking, how bad is unrestricted A2 bike?

[spikethedogg]

How likely are you to get caught riding an unrestricted A2 bike? I mean I'm not going to derestrict mine, because it doesn't even need a restrictor for starters, but my friend is riding an SRAD 600 on A2 license without the restrictor

[defblade]

Not very*. But if he does get caught, it'll be a very expensive buggering from the law and then insurances companies. In the case of that happening, buy him a large tub of Vaseline to help







*That is, not very... if he doesn't ride like a dick. The only problem here is, the sort of person who can't be bothered to comply with rules on power for whatever reason (and an A2 bike has plenty of power of normal riding) may well be the sort of person who does then go out and ride his "super powerful" bike like a dick.
Also, having a crash may call attention to his bike, and remember, it's the other dicks on the road who cause crashes. Riding style can reduce the chances but not remove them, for anyone.
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[pinkyfloyd]

Personally I do not see the point. We have a bike we can switch the ECU in to restrict it to A2 and until you get into the 100mph speeds you do not notice the restriction at all. I have had students on the restricted version leave the full powered bikes behind and they kept up well enough with me.

As said above, should something happen he will be done for riding without the conditions of his licence and this will invalidate his insurance so he'd be looking at a shedload of points, a struggle to get insured again for 5 years and a hefty fine from the courts.

You have to think, do the benefits of taking the restriction out outweigh the legalities? Personally I do not think they do.
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[Rogerborg]

I'm guessing SFV650? Out of interest, have you actually had it dynod with the restrictor in?

[stevo as b4]

A bike like a 300 Yamaha or ninja or similar with a natural 40-45bhp is a so much better bike to have on A2 always!

If it's any good it'll be lighter, and have much better performance than a 46bhp 200kg 900cc for example.

Tyres will be smaller and cheaper and Wear rates less on a lighter bike. A free revving engine that makes around the legal A2 bhp limit will be nicer to use and feel much more thrashable too!

It's a load of old bollocks those fools that say ride a restricted 750cc or whatever for 2years, then pass test and pull out restrictor for a brand new bike. After 2years you'll be fed up and bored with the bike and another 45bhp isn't going to make it worth keeping or any nicer to ride either.

[andyscooter]

[stinkwheel]

Chances of being caught. Fairly low.

Consequences of being caught, very severe.

Assuming it's the persons first full licence, almost certainly enough points for it to be revoked (torn up, you no longer have a licence, go back to start and apply for a provisional). And a 4 figure fine.
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[Cronik]

Your 'friend'
'Johnny'
Is not very smart.

Swallow the truth OP.

It's a bad idea no matter how much you wish it not to be.

I think the only person who isn't speaking realistically is yourself.
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[Rogerborg]

[Teflon-Mike]

Probability of getting pulled & challenged for any motoring offence, are 'nominally' pretty low, but increase circumstantially.

You are incredibly unlikely to get pulled over merely for having an A2 licence to 'check' your licence; you are likely to get stopped for riding like a dick, small plate, loud pipe, or other leap into the lime-light antics.

Some-one who buys an SRAD600 that in no way can be made A2 compliant, and has such a loose grasp of reality that they can convince themselves that they can 'get away with it'...... Probably has the odds stacked against them from the start....

Same delusional thinking will get applied to how they ride, and it'll be something of a shock when that alternate reality of shear optimism is burst, when they get pulled for filter wheelieing away from a cop-car in the zig-zags at a pelican crossing in a 30 zone!
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[roboff94]

Ive just had to restrict my VFR... yeah its annoying, but there's nothing you can do about it, so you might as well just do it. Is the extra 5 or 10 or whatever horsepower worth losing your license over? and then having to bankrupt your self for the next decade just to drive some naff 1.0L Corsa or summat? Ignorance isnt a valid excuse either....

[Cronik]

[Teflon-Mike]

[Kal]

[Dynamoron]

Passed my full category a in October and before then had my VFR and my SV unrestricted the whole time i was on that licence and I never had a problem. Insurance wanted proof it was restricted for the VFR but never asked for it on the SV. Was very aware of what could happen though from what I found it would be 15 points on your licence for driving without insurance and riding a bike not within your category as well as a £1000 fine!

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