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PostPosted: 00:42 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Things I Soon Learned The Hard Way Reply with quote

Things I Soon Learned The Hard Way
Or, A Chronological Account of Incompetence In Only Two Journeys After CBT
Presented for the General Mockery and Amusement of All

1 - When the engine dies during your journey, don't assume it's because you ran out of fuel. Even though you're riding home from the dealer, having just bought the bike, and there was only a spoonful of gas in the tank to start with. After parking up and taking a long walk to buy a canful of petrol ... I learned that sometimes the engine dies just because you accidentally rocked the kill switch.

2 - You padlock a bike chain by putting one end link through another, and the lock through the single end link. Not by cramming two links into the padlock. Which would take around 10 minutes to achieve in the first place. Doing that jams the lock so that you have to get your neighbour with gorilla hands to help you squeeze the mechanism hard enough to unlock it again.

3 - An overwhelming reek of petrol while riding is not normal. Pull over and check it out. Instead of just thinking, "Wow, bikes smell more than I realised!" (See also 4 and 5.)

4 - The back wheel sliding around like an angry snake is not normal. Pull over and check it out. Instead of just thinking, "Wow, bikes are a lot harder to control than I realised!" (See also 3 and 5.)

5 - Trust the dealer reviews written by other customers on Google reviews. Rather than just thinking, "Some suckers must have been really unlucky. No business can be that bad!" Instead of learning that items 3 and 4 are being caused by the petrol you bought the other night pissing out of a disconnected fuel hose, directly in front of your rear wheel, causing both a strong smell and a lot of sliding around. All during your first ever commute to work, within the first 10 miles since buying the bike from the dealer whose customer reviews you disregarded. All resulting in a 1½ mile work-out to push the bike to a mechanic, who tells you the hose has popped loose because it was at least an inch too short.

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Can I just interrupt my own post here to give a big shout out to everyone at South London Motorcycles in Tooting. Without those guys, I would never have had such an exciting early riding experience! There's nothing like a dealer whose top engineers are dedicated to quality and safety when it comes to getting bikes ready for collection. (Hope this advertorial break doesn't forum rules on spam!)
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6 - A warranty doesn't cover the cost of repair if the dealer doesn't do the fix. Even if it's just £20. To claim the warranty, you would need to recover the bike back to the dealer at your own cost. Or as we say in South London, 'Tows before hose!'

7 - Don't park up side-on to the wind. Just because you were two hours late for work, what with avoiding death by petrol slide and then pushing your bike to a mechanic and all that guff, doesn't mean the local wind gods are going to throw you a fricking bone today. You see, the town planners of Croydon have used their powers of concrete soullessness to craft the finest wind tunnels in the land. Sure, there's always a BMW parked in the same space and it's fine - that's because it's a heavy Bavarian bastard, like those people who sunbathe nude all year round in the public park in Munich. But you my old chump, you will return to find your little 125 in a sad puddle of its own oil, having long since lost its battle to stay upright on its centre stand.

...

I'm a month on from those initial hard-learned lessons now. There was a definite moment when I wanted to just go get on a train and leave the damn machine to rot in its own juice. But it's honestly been worth staying in the saddle: the daily journey is so much more engaging than the alternative of dead-eyed cattle transfer by disappointing trains. (Even though the destination is still, unavoidably, Croydon.)
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PostPosted: 05:28 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice stuff Thumbs Up and lots more to come your way. Soon you will be an expert on reg/rec failures, head bearings, dodgy electrics, oil types, ACF50, cracked plug caps, warped discs, etc etc etc........

You will avidly join in discussion topics on security, tyre choice, power enhancement, chain oilers, next bike, riding in the wind etc etc etc......

You have the makings of a biker, sir Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a new member I can't rate this post yet but had to give it a HUGE thumbs up, really made me smile, please keep posting! Thumbs Up Razz

Edit: correct emoji this time!


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PostPosted: 10:33 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

louisella wrote:
As a new member I can't rate this post yet but had to give it a HUGE thumbs up, really made me smile, please keep posting! Middle Finger Very Happy


Thumbs Up this is thumbs up Middle Finger this is screw you Laughing

It is a fine post BTW Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Things I Soon Learned The Hard Way Reply with quote

6R4H4M wrote:

Can I just interrupt my own post here to give a big shout out to everyone at South London Motorcycles in Tooting. Without those guys, I would never have had such an exciting early riding experience! There's nothing like a dealer whose top engineers are dedicated to quality and safety when it comes to getting bikes ready for collection. (Hope this advertorial break doesn't forum rules on spam!)

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PostPosted: 10:49 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well written and an interesting read.

I'm sure there's more to come. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aceslock wrote:
louisella wrote:
As a new member I can't rate this post yet but had to give it a HUGE thumbs up, really made me smile, please keep posting! Middle Finger Very Happy


Thumbs Up this is thumbs up Middle Finger this is screw you Laughing

It is a fine post BTW Thumbs Up


Argh!! See what happens when I post before my first tea of the day! I definitely meant Thumbs Up not Middle Finger Laughing (also just realised I may have used the wrong one on other posts...quickly shuffles into the embarrassed corner Wink )
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great post!
I wish I had chronicled my initial experiences!

I take your dodgy dealer and raise you 1 prime chav idiot who along with a lot of other things, removed the entire air filter assembly, jubilee clipped a beer can on the end of the carb and zip tied a stocking over the end Shocked.
And I couldn't understand why the engine was fubar after a could of k...
In pursuit of More powah as I managed to uncover a few threads online involving this character going against all advice trying to soup up this 125 4 t bike :-\

It sounds like you've been through a fair bit but its all uphill from here on in as you gain confidence on the road and can begin to enjoy the ride a lot more Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: re Reply with quote

i had a number 2 moment when i first got my bike chain and had to browse google images to work out how to operate the lock properly putting one link into the other
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You aren't the first and you won't be the last to make themselves feel an idiot Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
i had a number 2 moment


Too much information ... Confused
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:
It sounds like you've been through a fair bit but its all uphill from here on in


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PostPosted: 13:08 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Evil Hans wrote:
bigdom86 wrote:
i had a number 2 moment


Too much information ... Confused


i did think Confused as i wrote it but ohwell i stand by my statement Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks folks. Also, I totally forgot:

https://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/idiotboy77/B79083FE-9BF0-4CF2-A7A8-7C2A0ADEBD43_zpsznld9dcf.jpg

…and yesterday, I realised the speedo is super-cautious anyway. I thought I'd been tearing up the highway at 35mph on the way in today. Checked with an app on my phone: top speed 26.5 Confused
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 28 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Things I Soon Learned The Hard Way Reply with quote

6R4H4M wrote:
South London Motorcycles in Tooting.

Ah, I see they're alumni of the Vince Candelin school of dealing.

What did that dealer premium buy you? All together now...

https://i.imgur.com/IjCHXJP.jpg

Glad you survived and got over it. Don't blame the bike, it's just as much a victim in this as you.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Things I Soon Learned The Hard Way Reply with quote

6R4H4M wrote:
Things I Soon Learned The Hard Way
Or, A Chronological Account of Incompetence In Only Two Journeys After CBT
Presented for the General Mockery and Amusement of All

1 - When the engine dies during your journey, don't assume it's because you ran out of fuel. Even though you're riding home from the dealer, having just bought the bike, and there was only a spoonful of gas in the tank to start with. After parking up and taking a long walk to buy a canful of petrol ... I learned that sometimes the engine dies just because you accidentally rocked the kill switch.

2 - You padlock a bike chain by putting one end link through another, and the lock through the single end link. Not by cramming two links into the padlock. Which would take around 10 minutes to achieve in the first place. Doing that jams the lock so that you have to get your neighbour with gorilla hands to help you squeeze the mechanism hard enough to unlock it again.

3 - An overwhelming reek of petrol while riding is not normal. Pull over and check it out. Instead of just thinking, "Wow, bikes smell more than I realised!" (See also 4 and 5.)

4 - The back wheel sliding around like an angry snake is not normal. Pull over and check it out. Instead of just thinking, "Wow, bikes are a lot harder to control than I realised!" (See also 3 and 5.)

5 - Trust the dealer reviews written by other customers on Google reviews. Rather than just thinking, "Some suckers must have been really unlucky. No business can be that bad!" Instead of learning that items 3 and 4 are being caused by the petrol you bought the other night pissing out of a disconnected fuel hose, directly in front of your rear wheel, causing both a strong smell and a lot of sliding around. All during your first ever commute to work, within the first 10 miles since buying the bike from the dealer whose customer reviews you disregarded. All resulting in a 1½ mile work-out to push the bike to a mechanic, who tells you the hose has popped loose because it was at least an inch too short.

*****
Can I just interrupt my own post here to give a big shout out to everyone at South London Motorcycles in Tooting. Without those guys, I would never have had such an exciting early riding experience! There's nothing like a dealer whose top engineers are dedicated to quality and safety when it comes to getting bikes ready for collection. (Hope this advertorial break doesn't forum rules on spam!)
*****

6 - A warranty doesn't cover the cost of repair if the dealer doesn't do the fix. Even if it's just £20. To claim the warranty, you would need to recover the bike back to the dealer at your own cost. Or as we say in South London, 'Tows before hose!'

7 - Don't park up side-on to the wind. Just because you were two hours late for work, what with avoiding death by petrol slide and then pushing your bike to a mechanic and all that guff, doesn't mean the local wind gods are going to throw you a fricking bone today. You see, the town planners of Croydon have used their powers of concrete soullessness to craft the finest wind tunnels in the land. Sure, there's always a BMW parked in the same space and it's fine - that's because it's a heavy Bavarian bastard, like those people who sunbathe nude all year round in the public park in Munich. But you my old chump, you will return to find your little 125 in a sad puddle of its own oil, having long since lost its battle to stay upright on its centre stand.

...

I'm a month on from those initial hard-learned lessons now. There was a definite moment when I wanted to just go get on a train and leave the damn machine to rot in its own juice. But it's honestly been worth staying in the saddle: the daily journey is so much more engaging than the alternative of dead-eyed cattle transfer by disappointing trains. (Even though the destination is still, unavoidably, Croydon.)


Haha, I can remember when I first got my bike, letting my mates kids sit on it and play about, and then the bike failing to start when they had gotten off. Trying to appear calm, I was saying "they must of flooded the engine." I took the spark plug out, wiped it, left it out to let any petrol evaporate, put the spark plug back in...still wouldn't start, repeated the process, then tried using the kickstart, still wouldn't start. I thought the bloody kids have broke my new bike. Then 30 minutes later after a lot of fannying around I happened to glance at the kill switch...it was off. I remember thinking what a nob I am. I flicked the switch and pressed the ignition and the bike started straight away. Needless to say I felt a right tit! Embarassed
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Things I Soon Learned The Hard Way Reply with quote

col-el rider wrote:
flicked the switch and pressed the ignition and the bike started straight away. Needless to say I felt a right tit! Embarassed



Laughing Laughing Laughing Not ashamed to say that i've done the same at least twice since passing. didnt go as far as taking the plug out but checked the battery terminals and tried bumping it for about 10 minutes.. and then i noticed it

i also once thought i ran out of fuel going home from work.. wondered why on earth the bike cut out, it started for 20 seconds and then cut out again. checked fuel.. loads in the tank.. check leads, switches, battery terminals, coil connections.. went through the motions and decided to start pushing the bike home... a good 10 minutes of sweating my arse off later... and then i noticed it


the fuel tap set at "off"
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Things I Soon Learned The Hard Way Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
6R4H4M wrote:
South London Motorcycles in Tooting.

Ah, I see they're alumni of the Vince Candelin school of dealing.



That cunt immediately sprang to mind for me too.

Wonder what he's doing now? Karma will get him one day.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

First time I stopped for fuel after getting the Fazer I spent a good ten minutes trying to figure out why it wouldn't start...

... then I remembered the immobiliser Embarassed
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two daft errors of my own:

1. Bike wouldn't start, had no way of getting to work, called and said I couldn't make it, spent hours looking at the electrics, took the whole thing apart, checked HT lead, plugs, reg/rec etc, even called a local garage to see if they were insured to do motorcycle work (they weren't). One last check of the bike... kill switch.

2. Bike started bogging down and losing power on a dual carriageway. "So this is the end," I thought. Forced it a mile or so further, found the next exit onto some kind of industrial estate, started doing laps of the place, delicately working the engine and listening to it to try and figure out what was going wrong. Bike eventually died completely. Fuel needed flicking to reserve Very Happy .
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learnt to keep the remote for my scoot in my hand till I got far enough away from the scoot to stop it being pressed in my pocked

got out from a 12 hour night shift and bike was deader then a dead thing

turns out electrics had been live all night someone could of just pressed the start button and gone off without keys Embarassed
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As everyone else regarding kill-switch.

Leave at stupid o'clock for work in the morning.

So find bike will not start:-

1) Check side stand and it's not that

2) Check fuel to ensure I'm not inadvertently in reserve.

3) Try to jump start bike.

After all that I walk back up street and push bike into garden then realise that kill-switch is in off position.

Felt like a proper plum.
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

6R4HRM wrote:
South London Motorcycles in Tooting


No idea how they're even in business. Did alarm bells not ring when you first walked into their 'showroom'..? I first thought it was a knackers yard for bikes (they had no lights on or even a sign outside with the company name) until I saw the dinner lady sat behind a desk having a blazing row with her colleague / boss / boyfriend while a customer was sat in front of her shaking his head in astonishment.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my first bike Brand New and assumed the tyres would last as long as the ones on my Dad's car, i.e. a year or two. So I didn't notice that my rear tyre was bald until I'd bounced along the road on my arse, leaving lumps of flesh everywhere.
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